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Beccaberry
04-10-2009, 09:41 PM
Have we discussed this one? :shrug:

I think I'm in love.

keith
04-10-2009, 09:55 PM
Have we discussed this one? :shrug:

I think I'm in love.

We haven't actually! It's called the Canon 500D in Europe and a good thorough review telling you more than you want to know is here Canon EOS 500D / Digital Rebel T1i Review: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS500D/)

Basically though it's superb. I can't fault it at its price point. Played with it, loved it and if you've seen HD movie mode from it, bye bye camcorder.

Great buy IMHO

Beccaberry
04-10-2009, 11:13 PM
I may have found "the one" :)

Had a tinker with it this morning...it's going to be hard to leave for Disney without buying it.... :wink:

keith
04-10-2009, 11:43 PM
cracking choice IMHO, really don't see a downside to it :D

ukwdwnut
05-10-2009, 09:05 AM
is this the one with the viewfinder screen on back instead of all the info as on the 400D?

Britchick
05-10-2009, 09:25 AM
why must they call it something different in different countries! Cant wait to see the photos you take with that!

ukwdwnut
05-10-2009, 10:02 AM
i know stupid isnt it, been the same with all the canon slr's

movie mode sounds really cool :D

Britchick
05-10-2009, 10:20 AM
i would think it takes up lots of memory though.

ukwdwnut
05-10-2009, 10:27 AM
i would think it takes up lots of memory though.

absolutely, there nothing better than a camcorder tho its what its made for, camera are ok for small movies tho i guess

keith
05-10-2009, 10:37 AM
absolutely, there nothing better than a camcorder tho its what its made for, camera are ok for small movies tho i guess

I feel like I'm always the disagreeable one :lol: but anyway...

The sensors in the camcorders, especially consumer ones, tend to be positively tiny v SLRs. Then the lenses you can get for the Dslrs are amazing v. the built in camcorder ones. The low light capability of that canon T1i with a cheapy 50mm f1.8 lens, well let's just say wow.

They don't take up any more memory on a DSLR than they would on a modern HD camcorder so that's not really such an issue any more.

Not that it's all rosy, some things like autofocus during filming tend to be better on the camcorders but for quality of video, you'd have to pay way more than what you'd pay for that canon before you came anywhere close with a camcorder.

ukwdwnut
05-10-2009, 10:42 AM
I feel like I'm always the disagreeable one :lol: but anyway...

The sensors in the camcorders, especially consumer ones, tend to be positively tiny v SLRs. Then the lenses you can get for the Dslrs are amazing v. the built in camcorder ones. The low light capability of that canon T1i with a cheapy 50mm f1.8 lens, well let's just say wow.

They don't take up any more memory on a DSLR than they would on a modern HD camcorder so that's not really such an issue any more.

Not that it's all rosy, some things like autofocus during filming tend to be better on the camcorders but for quality of video, you'd have to pay way more than what you'd pay for that canon before you came anywhere close with a camcorder.

yeah you are arent ya :wink: :lol:

thats a good point didnt think of that.....but you cant get 30-40gb memory sticks yet can you like a camcorder :taunt: :lol: would be good to see the difference tho

keith
05-10-2009, 10:55 AM
yeah you are arent ya :wink: :lol:

thats a good point didnt think of that.....but you cant get 30-40gb memory sticks yet can you like a camcorder :taunt: :lol: would be good to see the difference tho

Sure you can! The largest compact flash cards are 64GB :) although yeah, 32 is more common at the moment perhaps.

It just isn't going to be a problem though. I think the cards are cheap enough now that you can just easily swap one out and put another in. Some of the camcorders with internal drives dont have additional memory slots so once that 40GB is filled you HAVE to copy it all to your computer. At least with the canon you can buy another compact flash card and carry on shooting.

Some of the videos around the web from these cameras is simply amazing. I really didn't expect great things but I'm pretty impressed

Britchick
05-10-2009, 11:03 AM
good point! we don't have a hd camcorder so hadn't thought of the downloading problem. How much recording time would you get on a 32gb then?

ukwdwnut
05-10-2009, 11:05 AM
Sure you can! The largest compact flash cards are 64GB :) although yeah, 32 is more common at the moment perhaps.

It just isn't going to be a problem though. I think the cards are cheap enough now that you can just easily swap one out and put another in. Some of the camcorders with internal drives dont have additional memory slots so once that 40GB is filled you HAVE to copy it all to your computer. At least with the canon you can buy another compact flash card and carry on shooting.

Some of the videos around the web from these cameras is simply amazing. I really didn't expect great things but I'm pretty impressed

cool didnt know that, got to be better than a cam then.

thats why i wouldnt buy a hdd cam and the dvd format :nono: and stuck with the tapes as i can keep them for backup or just make different videoes with the same footage :)

ukwdwnut
05-10-2009, 11:08 AM
good point! we don't have a hd camcorder so hadn't thought of the downloading problem. How much recording time would you get on a 32gb then?

just read, up to 12hrs

Britchick
05-10-2009, 11:12 AM
just read, up to 12hrs

wow! do you know what kind of cards it takes?

keith
05-10-2009, 11:15 AM
about 96 minutes, so over an hour and half of high definition 1080p video (or more if you wanted lower quality video)

keith
05-10-2009, 11:16 AM
just read, up to 12hrs

really? :/ on what quality setting?

josh.p.
05-10-2009, 11:27 AM
WOW. that's all I have to say.

keith
05-10-2009, 11:42 AM
New Canon 7D Video Vienna is not Beijing | Cinesky (http://cineskyvfx.com/blog/?p=112)

Here's a sample video from one of these canon cams. I Dont know if it'll impress you or not, but it impresses me.

Taken without loads of video lights around the place, just with a digital SLR around vienna.

Look at the darkness of the scenes and think what your camcorder would make of it. I know mine would be all noisy and either grey or green night time mode would probably want to kick in. See how the canon HD video preserves the colours even in that low light? The definition of the video and the sharpness of the whole scene?

On a normal consumer camcorder pretty much everything is in focus but when you watch a movie, you get that lovely shallow depth of field where the subject is sharp and in focus but the background is nicely blurry. It really makes a difference between something looking pro and something looking like a cheapy cam. Notice the lovely effects in this video all because of the availability of large aperture lenses like say 50mm 1.8 (about 60quid) and the larger sensor.

Britchick
05-10-2009, 11:43 AM
Becca, you must get this to go with it

Canon | Normal EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus Lens | 2514A002 | B&H (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12142-USA/Canon_2514A002_Normal_EF_50mm_f_1_8.html)

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Jon is buying it for me today :)

It's a MASSIVE splurge I know, but Jon's treating and I'm accepting. Best Buy is running a special this month - no interest on purchases if paid for within 18 months. I got a (small) raise last week and after doing the math, I sorted out that I could have it totally paid off w/ that money before the 18 mths is up. I've been looking at it for weeks and I really just *want* it!! I'm a tad bit gutted about the fact that last week they were selling the camera, an extra lens and a bag for $123 less than the separate purchase price and this week it's disappeared...but that's ok, I'll just buy the camera for now and perhaps ask for the lens from Santa.

My question now is what size SD memory card *should* I buy? Taking into consideration, I'll mostly be taking photos and *short* vid clips (say, less than 60 seconds each) AND my rather irrational fear of oversized memory cards (I'm always afraid I'll have the massive memory card filled with all my photos and it will go bad...the classic "all your eggs in one basket" sort of mentality).

OMG, Jules...I REALLY want that.

keith
05-10-2009, 02:11 PM
Im beyond excited for you! That's just a heck of a brilliant camera! you're going to have SO much fun and given your talent, wow.

Size card... well 4GB are pretty economic these days! 2GB if you're worrying but I think 4 is a decent compromise.

That 50mm f1.8 lens is and always has been canon's bargain lens. Sharper than lenses you'll pay 1000s for and less than $100 :) Not a zoom lens of course but still a bargain

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 02:15 PM
Oooh thanks you, I was just texting Jon that I thought the 4G was a decent choice, but that I was checking w/ "the professionals" :lol:

I'm thinking if I buy 2 4G cards I should be ok for now...

I'm so flippin' excited!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

ukwdwnut
05-10-2009, 02:16 PM
that reminds me i HAVE to get my 50mm lens replaced :)

excited for you becca :)

Britchick
05-10-2009, 02:20 PM
i think 2 x 4gb would be good i have 2 x4gbs and a 2gb and i shoot a lot in RAW so you should be fine with that- hundreds of photos.


can't wait to see the photos!

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 02:23 PM
I want to go home NOW!!!! (I told Jon to put the battery on the charger :wink: )

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 02:24 PM
I have a couple of 2G that I can carry w/ me as backup...so I think you're right Jules.

Thanks, 'nut...I'm excited too!!! And right before our trip!!! I'm a lucky girl!

Britchick
05-10-2009, 02:30 PM
it won't take long to charge!

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 02:34 PM
Does anyone think I need a second battery right out of the gate?

keith
05-10-2009, 02:37 PM
Does anyone think I need a second battery right out of the gate?

nah. They're really great on batteries these days, you can recharge back in your room each night if needed and if you HAVE To desperately get another battery, bestbuy isnt ever far away ;)

ukwdwnut
05-10-2009, 02:37 PM
ihavent needed one as yet becca, i think the canon one is good for 500 or more photos on a single charge

i did buy some non canon ones what a pile of crud they are they are going straight in the bin

Britchick
05-10-2009, 02:38 PM
I've haven't found that i have needed one yet but i don't shoot video. Depends how many photos/video you're going to take and how much playback you're going to do.

is there a guide to how long the battery lasts?

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 02:40 PM
Good point, Keith...though that good be dangerous when I'm in "vacation mode" :wink:

Off to look for a guide now...

keith
05-10-2009, 02:40 PM
Most people say the first charge gives 250 ish but subsequent charges give 500-750 depending how much flash/video etc.

ukwdwnut
05-10-2009, 02:41 PM
I have a couple of 2G that I can carry w/ me as backup...so I think you're right Jules.

Thanks, 'nut...I'm excited too!!! And right before our trip!!! I'm a lucky girl!

you are too :D

one thing id love to get is an L glass lens but cant justify the price for the amount i use the camera

Britchick
05-10-2009, 02:45 PM
400 is the official amount of shots - i would get a spare one if you can. You don't want to run out of battery.

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 02:50 PM
True...especially at the F&W Festival!!!

And a spare will only run me about 40 dollars or so...the question is, if I charge it up and then, say, don't use it for three days...will it still hold the charge?

catrancher
05-10-2009, 02:57 PM
the question is, if I charge it up and then, say, don't use it for three days...will it still hold the charge?

These newer batteries are all Lithium Ion. They'll hold their charge for weeks if not months. I've got a spare for my Nikon that I charged a good six months ago and it still shows as 100%.

Tom (:macwave:... I'm charged up!)

Britchick
05-10-2009, 03:45 PM
that's a good price- wish i'd got one while out there. Oh well

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 03:50 PM
Awesome, Tom...thanks for the info...I just texted Jon and asked him to pick that up as well...I guess I should stop now before I press my luck and good fortune :)

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 03:50 PM
hehehehe I'm gonna have the BEST photos of JOHNIE'S BIRTHDAY EXTRAVAGANZA!!!!

Britchick
05-10-2009, 03:53 PM
Awesome, Tom...thanks for the info...I just texted Jon and asked him to pick that up as well...I guess I should stop now before I press my luck and good fortune :)

:tongue:

Johnie
05-10-2009, 03:56 PM
hehehehe I'm gonna have the BEST photos of JOHNIE'S BIRTHDAY EXTRAVAGANZA!!!!

YAY!!! Now remember to take photos from ABOVE....:tongue:

keith
05-10-2009, 04:00 PM
Awesome, Tom...thanks for the info...I just texted Jon and asked him to pick that up as well...I guess I should stop now before I press my luck and good fortune :)

Well whilst you're texting ;-) heck you never know! ;)

some zooms
canon 10-22 efs
canon 17-55 efs
canon 70-200L f4 IS

some primes
canon 35L 1.4
canon 50mm 1.8
canon 100mm IS macro

some extras
Canon 580EXII flash
Manfrotto carbon fibre tripod
Lowepro bag

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 04:01 PM
hehehe you're going to get me into a LOT of trouble, Sir.

...but hey, it's worth a shot!

It *is* free interest for 18 mths....

Britchick
05-10-2009, 04:05 PM
lowepro slinghot 200 shoud do you to keep everything in :tongue:

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 04:10 PM
Is that the backpack one?

Britchick
05-10-2009, 04:14 PM
yep, it's great- i can fit all my lenses (at the moment) :unsure: flash, chargers etc and a wallet and keys and my iphone. oh and tissues, headache tablets........you get the picture lol

you swing it round to your front- unzip and you can access the camera without things falling out. It's easy to carry too because it goes across your shoulder and is supported at the waist too so the weight is spread out.

josh.p.
05-10-2009, 04:14 PM
Is it bad that I'm really excited and I'm not even the one getting the camera? :unsure:

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 04:16 PM
LOL, no Josh...and for the record I'm TWICE as excited knowing you guys are excited for me!!

Off to look for that bag now...

keith
05-10-2009, 04:22 PM
LOL, no Josh...and for the record I'm TWICE as excited knowing you guys are excited for me!!

Off to look for that bag now...

well we're THREE times excited knowing youre erm excited for us being erm excited for you. or. erm. SOMETHING! :wiggle::wiggle::wiggle::wiggle::wiggle:

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 04:24 PM
HAHAHA!!

Keith we may need more server space for all my new photos...lol!

josh.p.
05-10-2009, 04:27 PM
LOL, no Josh...and for the record I'm TWICE as excited knowing you guys are excited for me!!

Off to look for that bag now...
Yay!!! I'm TOOO EXCITED to see your photos!! TAKE SOME NOW :yes:

keith
05-10-2009, 04:28 PM
HAHAHA!!

Keith we may need more server space for all my new photos...lol!

server space is NOT a problem! we have as much as you need :D

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 04:50 PM
He's in the store NOW!!! He's buying it, he's buying it!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

It's also on sale for $50 less then I expected!! BONUS!!! That should help out with the bag Jules told me about!! :wink:

josh.p.
05-10-2009, 04:52 PM
He's in the store NOW!!! He's buying it, he's buying it!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

It's also on sale for $50 less then I expected!! BONUS!!! That should help out with the bag Jules told me about!! :wink:
:bounce2::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 04:55 PM
Quick question..the sales associate is recommending the UV Filter to protect the lens...Yes or No?

catrancher
05-10-2009, 04:57 PM
Quick question..the sales associate is recommending the UV Filter to protect the lens...Yes or No?

That or a polarizing filter. I like the polarizer better as it gives you the protection and provides a polarizer that will help bring out the sky, clouds, etc. in outdoor shots.

Tom (:macwave:... love those clouds!)

josh.p.
05-10-2009, 04:59 PM
I asked Keith the same question and he said it's 50/50...

Some argue that it offers great protection if nothing else... Others argue that why buy an expensive lens only to just put a cheap glass filter over it? :unsure:

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 05:17 PM
Hmmm good point on all counts...it was only 9 bucks though, so I guess it's good to have in my collection in case I'm ever taking photos on the sun. :wink:

Britchick
05-10-2009, 05:24 PM
For the kit lens I think it's a good buy, I must get myself a polarizing filter

Johnie
05-10-2009, 05:31 PM
I am having serious camera envy

and I am not even taking either of my cameras to Disney with me

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 05:34 PM
I'll let you have a play :)

I might even let you take a photo of me...where you can actually SEE me...and I'm smiling....

Johnie
05-10-2009, 05:36 PM
:tongue: deal

josh.p.
05-10-2009, 07:39 PM
Sooo.... where is the barrage of photographs we asked for?! :unsure:

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 07:43 PM
hehehe don't you know I'm about to go mad here!!! I'm still at work and it's sitting at home waiting on me!!!!! TWENTY MORE MINUTES, a quick trip to the doctors for blood work and I'll be there!!!

keith
05-10-2009, 07:43 PM
:wiggle::wiggle::wiggle::wiggle::wiggle:

josh.p.
05-10-2009, 08:00 PM
Please just DON'T take photos of the bloodwork!

Beccaberry
05-10-2009, 08:02 PM
No worries there! I'll have my eyes tightly screwed shut!

Beccaberry
06-10-2009, 02:55 AM
It's here. Sitting right in front of me. Battery is charged.

And all I can do is stare it.

I think it scares me a little.

:hide:

Johnie
06-10-2009, 03:37 AM
:biggirlpanties:

ahem.....put them on :tongue:

ukwdwnut
06-10-2009, 08:30 AM
woohoo :D

Beccaberry
06-10-2009, 09:17 AM
lol I managed to attach the neck strap last night :)

ukwdwnut
06-10-2009, 09:46 AM
lol I managed to attach the neck strap last night :)

your going all techy on me now becs :lol:

Beccaberry
06-10-2009, 10:57 AM
:lol:

:slap:

It's truly glorious.

ukwdwnut
06-10-2009, 11:45 AM
:lol:

:slap:

It's truly glorious.

lol well you will have to visit me over here to show me that :lol:

Beccaberry
06-10-2009, 01:53 PM
You never know...I just may :) you, Keith and Jules and the rest of our amazing photographers across the pond can show me how to really use it!

ukwdwnut
06-10-2009, 02:35 PM
You never know...I just may :) you, Keith and Jules and the rest of our amazing photographers across the pond can show me how to really use it!

cool!!! a you show me yours and i'll show you mine meet :lol:

Beccaberry
06-10-2009, 02:51 PM
hahaha A Disney Secrets Photog meet would be AWESOME

ukwdwnut
06-10-2009, 02:53 PM
hahaha A Disney Secrets Photog meet would be AWESOME

as long as i can use my big lens :lol:

Britchick
06-10-2009, 03:16 PM
as long as i can use my big lens :lol:

oh please! how childish :rolleyes3:

bet mine's bigger than yours anyway:taunt:




i agree a photog meet would be fab!

ukwdwnut
06-10-2009, 03:25 PM
oh please! how childish :rolleyes3:






i agree a photog meet would be fab!



bet mine's bigger than yours anyway:taunt:

wouldnt surprise me :wink: :taunt::taunt:

me too :D

josh.p.
06-10-2009, 03:54 PM
Becca I'm so jealous!! It looks :awesome: and yes, A photog meet would be totally :awesome: too :yes:

ukwdwnut
06-10-2009, 04:05 PM
and why arent you girls on the planner HUH!!!!