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foreverducky
12-11-2009, 01:32 PM
I may be moving on to a new phone in the near future and frankly, I'm not in the loop with regards to quality, etc.

Here's the story, due to being graduate student, my family and I have gone into a family so that we can talk anytime....I've decided with my life becoming more and more complicated with appts, meetings, seminars, etc., I need to branch out and have my own account, so that i can have a bigger and more rounded plan.

Not too mention I have had problems with the phone I have had, I will be receiving my 4th version of this phone and I'm very angry about this. Since I did not want to extend the plan I bought the phone out right, and this particular phone has taken a dump that many times.

Anyway (thanks for reading thus far), I am looking for a phone that will allow me to keep things organized, maybe check email, as well as, talk and text.

Not sure it matters, but I hope to stay with Verizon

Any advice?

Tink
12-11-2009, 01:37 PM
We have Verizon too. I have the iPhone for work, with AT&T and am so unhappy with it, I can't stand it (mostly because of AT&T and their lousy coverage and customer service).

We are looking at new phones for Verizon and will be checking out their newest, Droid. It's supposed to have all the features you mentioned, but we've not looked at it yet.

Maybe you'll want to look into that one too?

foreverducky
12-11-2009, 01:39 PM
The Droid? What an interesting name! Will do Tink!

josh.p.
12-11-2009, 03:08 PM
The iPhones calendar and organistion system is brill, plus there are plenty of apps which will help with that too :yes: I'd fully reccomend it.

foreverducky
12-11-2009, 03:13 PM
I wonder which companies carry the iphone? :unsure:

keith
12-11-2009, 05:15 PM
I'm Keith, and I'm a cell phone addict :yes:

Actually, I hate people *calling* me :lol: but I love being able to text/email/photo work on stuff all on a phone so that, added to our business which is all about internet comms, means I've tried a LOT of phones.

The only one in the last 6 years that's lasted more than a couple of months before being replaced with something newer is the iphone. I've had the iphone since it came out in 2007 I think it was. It's undoubtedly moved phones on a generation and is far better than I ever expected it to be.

HOWEVER, you need it on a good network or it becomes a large pretty useless brick without its connectivity. So Tink's AT&T experience makes sense to me.

Droid is based, unsurprisingly, on Google's freely available android cell phone operating system and they're working very hard indeed to capture the market back from the iphone. The droid is based on a newer version of the software than most phones out there now and is said to be very very good indeed.

Of course the other alternative is a windows mobile like the HTC HD2 which I think directly competes well with the iphone

uscwest
12-11-2009, 05:50 PM
Donna is also going to look at the Droid. And even I like what I've read so far. But I can't find anything about it having International capability.

keith
12-11-2009, 06:11 PM
Donna is also going to look at the Droid. And even I like what I've read so far. But I can't find anything about it having International capability.

yeah if it doesn't have GSM in there, it'll be pretty useless Internationally (and I can't see GSM in the specs yet)

They have announced a GSM version for the O2 cellular network over here in Europe however

foreverducky
12-11-2009, 06:23 PM
:lol: Keith. The resident phone addict. I actually don't talk a lot on mine either, used more for that other stuff. ;)

I have looked at the Droid and wow, it looks impressive. I've read some reviews online and the are pretty positive. I looked at plans as well and they seem to be decently priced. Not too outrageous.

Britchick
12-11-2009, 06:28 PM
i love my iphone and don't think i'd ever have another type of phone! except and upgrade of course!

catrancher
12-11-2009, 06:48 PM
i love my iphone and don't think i'd ever have another type of phone! except and upgrade of course!


What Brit said! :yes:

Granted, I hate AT&T. But then, I hate most large companies. Note that I said "most", not "all".

There are exceptions. :laugh2:

Tom (:macwave:... whatever large company could he possibly mean? :apple:)

lisaw
12-11-2009, 06:53 PM
i love my iphone and don't think i'd ever have another type of phone! except and upgrade of course!

Me too! :D I know absolutely nothing about phones but my iphone is super easy to use even for me! :lol: I actually have started getting the shakes if it is not within grasping distance :lol:

If I had my iphone on my last network though (orange) it would be completely frustrating as Keith said as I could never get a signal with them.

Johnie
15-11-2009, 05:37 AM
The iPhone is only available through AT&T. I have service with them. I LOVE the iPhone. It is FANTASTIC and I can truly say that I probably haven't even used a 1/10th of its capabilities.

I have also had nothing but good service with AT&T. I have cell reception everywhere but my grandma's in Kentucky. Now, when I had Cingular (before they were bought by AT&T) I had nothing but issues.

foreverducky
15-11-2009, 05:59 AM
I think I'm going to go to the store and check them out, but right now I'm totally leaning towards the Droid. No iphone for me, I have verizon.

foreverducky
15-11-2009, 06:00 AM
Oh and Johnie, I seriously need to visit your grandmothers house. As I remember she has no cell service or internet service....sounds like a vacation for me. I vant to be alone. :D

Tink
16-11-2009, 01:10 AM
GET THE DROID!!!!! :9: :9: :9: We just brought Herself's home today. It is an INCREDIBLE phone and has that fabulous Verizon coverage (which blows AT&T out of the water). :9:

You are going to LOVE it!!!!

I got an LG eNV, but that's because I have the iPhone for work. Shhhhhhhh now. Christmas present bought too. We added Seth's Da to our plan, and got him a new LG enV too. :yes: It's his Christmas present. :D

Ducky, you HAVE to see the Droid. I love it so much, that I've sent an email to our corporate office and asked if I can turn in the iPhone for the Droid. :yes:

I'll bet they don't let me, but you can't blame me for trying! :D

Anyway, it's the phone, I'm tellin' ya! :yes:

keith
16-11-2009, 01:15 AM
WOW Tink you trend setter you! I can't believe you have a new type of cell phone BEFORE ME!

Becca got a new camera, you got the droid, I'm feeling rather left out now!

VERY interested to hear you like the droid so much

I've been reading the tech reviews and although theyre pointing out the odd techie mutter about it, everyone seems to be agreeing that the droid has much better cell call quality than the iphone etc.

foreverducky
16-11-2009, 03:13 AM
Oh, that's fabulous news! I plan to check them out this Wednesday. You know, you gotta touch it and feel it. :D

Tink
16-11-2009, 01:16 PM
It's easier to use than the iPhone for openers. :yes: It is able to voice dial, that is a huge plus for me. I know the newer iPhones voice dial, but my 3 G doesn't and that's a real problem. You can download your own software, not that we will, but you could. :D

It's too wicked cool to use. I just can't stand it!!! LOL. How's that for tekknikal explanation. There are a couple of complaints about the odd one here and there not working out of the box, and we did have the initial one lock up when the camera was used, but the sales person at Verizon immediately, without asking went and got another. He has the droid too, and said his had never done that, so he wasn't taking any chances.

I'm a little jealous of Herself. :sigh: I have the iPhone so couldn't justify paying for a droid for me, so we used all of our discounts to get it for her (came to a total of $99 after all rebates, etc.).

Go play with one Keith! You'll LOVE it! :D

Tink
16-11-2009, 01:19 PM
Oh, meant to say that Herself phoned me on her way to work this morning and used the speaker phone feature. It was quite clear! Clearer than any other speaker phone on any other cell including the iPhone. (But to be fair, I've not yet FOUND the speaker phone feature on the not so intuitive iPhone... I think it's the first "Mac" product that I'm not madly in love with. :sorry: ).

keith
16-11-2009, 01:26 PM
Wow ok positive review then!

It's not out in the UK yet and no REAL information about which network will get it, how much it'll be etc.

Tink
16-11-2009, 01:30 PM
Verizon claims the original cost of the phone is $500 and some change. Not hardly. :lol: If you do not have the many rebates that we did, you will end up spending $200 on the phone, but that's not terrible for the newest technology. We spent the $99 because of our long term association with Verizon (gave us "special selection" rebate, in addition to the renewal rebates).

I would spend $200 on it though, and be happy to do so! :yes: (Of course, I can say that because I didn't have to, eh)? :lol:

foreverducky
16-11-2009, 01:48 PM
Oh, i wonder if I could swindle some rebates!

foreverducky
16-11-2009, 02:17 PM
Tink, did you buy one of the cases? I'm look at the hard plastic case, but then the silicone one looks decent too.

foreverducky
16-11-2009, 06:42 PM
I ended up purchasing the Eris one. Similar to Droid, but without the keypad. :) It should be arriving on Wednesday. I'm stoked.

Tink
17-11-2009, 01:17 AM
We looked at the Eris too. :yes: No, we didn't get any covers of a any sort. Herself order a carrying "pouch" as she wears her's at her waist (as skinny people can do) but that's it.

I had a terrible tragedy today. My brand new LG went swimming and drowned well and duly. $192 later and I have a replacement. :( :( :(

Don't sent them swimming. They won't survive. At least it wasn't the Droid. :sigh:

foreverducky
17-11-2009, 01:27 AM
Oh no! Definitely noted....phones don't swim. :(

I can not wait to get the new one. I ended up with the hard case cover. It needs to last 2 years. :) So no swimming or jumping off something and landing on the floor either.

keith
11-12-2009, 10:29 PM
Go play with one Keith! You'll LOVE it! :D

Well we finally got a Droid (aka Motorola Milestone in the UK) in at work today so I've been having a play.

It's very impressive to be fair. Motorola never really seem to push the boundaries these days, but I think the Google Android OS has done their job for them.

It's very fast, easy to use as Tink says and I think it has the power to divide the world into two, those who love the iphone and the way it works, and those who love the droid way.

Some very nice apps, google maps with traffic layers etc and some very nice voice technology, even google voice searching and so on.

Unlike the iphone it can multitask which makes a big difference, yet to see how much it drains the battery

Voice and speaker volume/quality better than the iphone, not that I have a problem with the iphone :) but the droid is more like nokia (best quality calls IMHO)

They've both got their pluses and minuses, both are great and do the job admirably but if you've tried an iphone and couldn't get on with it, the droid may well be what you've been waiting for :yes:

Tink
11-12-2009, 11:08 PM
Thank you for your comprehensive review! It's good to hear from someone who truly knows and understands the iPhone (unlike me). I've always really liked Nokias, although we've not had one in quite some time.

Never had a Motorolla, but the Droid could make me a believer. :lol:

I think once I learn more about the iPhone and get some apps that I can use (some of those free ones are nothing but rubbish) I may like it better. It's not going to get a truly fair shot from me though, as it's connected to AT and T... nuff' said. :sigh:

keith
12-12-2009, 12:46 AM
It's not going to get a truly fair shot from me though, as it's connected to AT and T... nuff' said. :sigh:

yep :( the iphone needs a good reliable fast data network and that's just not at&t is it.

Anyway, I'm certainly impressed with the droid

uscwest
12-12-2009, 12:54 PM
yeah if it doesn't have GSM in there, it'll be pretty useless Internationally (and I can't see GSM in the specs yet)

They have announced a GSM version for the O2 cellular network over here in Europe however


GET THE DROID!!!!! :9: :9: :9: We just brought Herself's home today. It is an INCREDIBLE phone and has that fabulous Verizon coverage (which blows AT&T out of the water). :9:

You are going to LOVE it!!!!

I got an LG eNV, but that's because I have the iPhone for work. Shhhhhhhh now. Christmas present bought too. We added Seth's Da to our plan, and got him a new LG enV too. :yes: It's his Christmas present. :D

Ducky, you HAVE to see the Droid. I love it so much, that I've sent an email to our corporate office and asked if I can turn in the iPhone for the Droid. :yes:

I'll bet they don't let me, but you can't blame me for trying! :D

Anyway, it's the phone, I'm tellin' ya! :yes:

The GSM feature would stop me then. I'm looking at the Blackberry Tour and Blackberry Storm as a replacement for my Blackberry World Edition. Donna is pretty well sold on the Droid.

Sorry to hear your new LG went swimming Tink.

keith
12-12-2009, 12:59 PM
The storm is useless. I can see from the stats on our blackberry server (thousands of people on it and we can see all the devices they use) that most people have stopped using it and gone back to the bold.

wdwgrandma
12-12-2009, 01:00 PM
Well we finally got a Droid (aka Motorola Milestone in the UK) in at work today so I've been having a play.
Wow, Keith, you may have sold me! John and I walked across the street from work the other day to check out the Droid.

I could have gotten the HTC version for $99, but I did NOT like the on screen keyboard. No matter where I pressed, I got the wrong letter. The Motorola version, however, with the slide out keyboard, really appealed to me. My problem, tho, is that I would have to pay extra for a data plan - and I don't have one now for my current phone, and I don't use my phone for internet use. I really can't justify the added expense, I guess. But I do like the Droid...

keith
12-12-2009, 01:36 PM
honestly I love my iphone and I didn't expect to like the droid at all. I only took an interest in it at work because Tink had praised it.

I'm surprised how good it is though. The keyboard is solid and well spaced, about the best I've seen for the size.

It IS *VERY* data-aware though. Not to say you couldn't use it without a data plan and it supports wifi anyway so that's an option

Definitely a very nice piece of kit

josh.p.
12-12-2009, 05:03 PM
Well we finally got a Droid (aka Motorola Milestone in the UK) in at work today so I've been having a play.

It's very impressive to be fair. Motorola never really seem to push the boundaries these days, but I think the Google Android OS has done their job for them.

It's very fast, easy to use as Tink says and I think it has the power to divide the world into two, those who love the iphone and the way it works, and those who love the droid way.

Some very nice apps, google maps with traffic layers etc and some very nice voice technology, even google voice searching and so on.

Unlike the iphone it can multitask which makes a big difference, yet to see how much it drains the battery

Voice and speaker volume/quality better than the iphone, not that I have a problem with the iphone :) but the droid is more like nokia (best quality calls IMHO)

They've both got their pluses and minuses, both are great and do the job admirably but if you've tried an iphone and couldn't get on with it, the droid may well be what you've been waiting for :yes:
I've always said that Motrolla could do with getting someone else to write their software! It's always been terrible, but their designs are ace. The droid does sound like the perfect alternative to the iPhone... is it cheaper, too?

I LOVE the look of the palm pre, if I had to switch from my iPhone it'd be to a palm pre or a droid. :yes:

keith
12-12-2009, 05:10 PM
I've always said that Motrolla could do with getting someone else to write their software! It's always been terrible, but their designs are ace. The droid does sound like the perfect alternative to the iPhone... is it cheaper, too?

I LOVE the look of the palm pre, if I had to switch from my iPhone it'd be to a palm pre or a droid. :yes:

pam pre - rubbish :(

We were eagerly awaiting it believe me but awful trashy software not yet ready for prime time, TERRIBLE battery life. Avoid.

At the moment, given windows mobile is somewhat out of the game, it's droid or iphone really :yes:

daveann
12-12-2009, 09:40 PM
i have had an iphone for 1 week and dont know how i got by without it its fantastic the apps are great and nothing i have found is rubbish on it i just love it :)

keith
15-12-2009, 10:02 PM
Interestingly AT&T lost their court case against verizon's ad campaign. Seems to confirm what you've been saying about AT&T Tink


At issue is an ad campaign called "There's a map for that," which is a takeoff of Apple's "There's an app for that" campaign for the iPhone. In the Apple ads, various iPhone apps are promoted to show that the iPhone platform has an app for virtually any need. In Verizon's case, the comparison is of AT&T's and Verizon's respective 3G networks, using a map of the United States to demonstrate each. Verizon's 3G map covers most of the country, while AT&T's is a spotty, barely visible web of tiny strands of coverage.

In other words, Verizon's ads and their depiction of each 3G network are accurate.

AT&T complained that the ads distorted the fact that AT&T's overall wireless network, which includes 3G coverage as well as older-generation, slower, non-3G networks, is more widespread than what is shown in the ads. But the Verizon ads never compared the overall size of both networks. They only compare 3G coverage, which is what smartphone users are looking for since the 3G areas transmit data at acceptable speeds.

"Verizon's side-by-side, apples-to-apples comparison of its own 3G coverage with AT&T's confirms what the marketplace has been saying for months: AT&T failed to invest adequately in the necessary infrastructure to expand its 3G coverage to support its growth in smartphone business, and the usefulness of its service to smartphone users has suffered accordingly," a Verizon court filing reads. "AT&T may not like the message that the ads send, but this Court should reject its efforts to silence the messenger."

The court did just that. And while that may seem like bad news for AT&T, the truth is, no one was ever fooled by the company's legal grandstanding. It's 3G network is widely considered the be the shoddiest of the major wireless networks in the United States, a fact that was coincidentally confirmed this past month in the latest issue of Consumer Reports, which rated AT&T's overall cell phone network
as the worst of the major carriers. Even its voice network received the dreaded lowest possible score from the publication. When it comes to "irreparable harm," AT&T is its own worst enemy.

Tink
17-12-2009, 02:02 AM
I spoke to our National Director today and told him that having to deal with AT &T is negatively effecting my work and my ability to do my job. I asked him if he could get me the Droid and get me back on Verizon. Interestingly enough, he refuses to use the iPhone because he doesn't want AT&T!

He said he would "try" but that's not very reassuring is it? I'll just have to start logging dropped calls and time invested in reconnecting (time delay to get to an area where I have service).

I am really pleased that Verizon did not misrepresent their coverage.