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Britchick
29-04-2010, 08:02 PM
what do you reckon? upgrade my 400d or go for a new lens eg one that did a range such as 24-105?

keith
29-04-2010, 08:11 PM
what do you reckon? upgrade my 400d or go for a new lens eg one that did a range such as 24-105?

Lens without a doubt :yes:

Too many reasons to even list unless you REALLY want but lens will be the better investment, allows you to do new things etc.

Britchick
29-04-2010, 08:17 PM
Lens without a doubt :yes:

Too many reasons to even list unless you REALLY want but lens will be the better investment, allows you to do new things etc.



OK!!! thanks :thumbsup:

keith
29-04-2010, 08:42 PM
but the question is.. which lens??

definitely 24-105 ?

Britchick
29-04-2010, 08:49 PM
but the question is.. which lens??

definitely 24-105 ?

well i need something wider that is better quality. Was going to go for a prime 30mm but am thinking that the 24-105 would be more useful. I originally wanted the 24-70 but the reports are variable and it's a heavy lens, I have trouble at the best of times keeping still enough to get a sharp shot. I love the creaminess in the skin that my 70-200 gives my portraits so thought i'd go for another L. Am open to suggestions though :thumbsup:

keith
29-04-2010, 09:04 PM
Wellllll :)

The 24-70 yep, I hated mine.

the 24-105 is a really nice walkabout lens. It does have some barrell and pincushion distortion at the wide end. Nothing you can't fix but worth knowing about.

The 17-40 is a great wide lens (the 10-22 is stunning on your 400 as long as you never go to a full frame)

If you REALLLLLY want to talk about portraits though, 85mm 1.2 ;-) is quite incredible and used extensively by Bambi Cantrell for her dreamy portrait/wedding style. Even a cheapy 85mm 1.8 is nice although 85 gets a LITTLE long on an APS-c camera but its a better focal length in terms of look than a 50 for portraits.

The Canon 35mm f/1.4 L USM lens is just beyond amazingly good as well.

foreverducky
30-04-2010, 12:54 AM
Yeah! A new lens, that's so exciting!

Britchick
30-04-2010, 06:38 AM
I need it wide enough to do family photos so 85mm wouldn't work. Will have a look at other choices tonight!

Skywatcher
30-04-2010, 06:43 AM
Well I'd vote for my 24-105 but then I don't know any better :D - seems remarkable to me

keith
30-04-2010, 11:23 AM
I need it wide enough to do family photos so 85mm wouldn't work. Will have a look at other choices tonight!

Well many people use 85 or even 100 for family shots, but yeah, you have to have the room to be able to back up sufficiently :yes:

The problem with going really wide for portraits is that whereas with a longer lens you get a flattering compression, the wider you go, the more exaggerated features like noses become :lol:

People seem to ignore that these days but it's still a very true effect

Skywatchers right though, the 24-105 is a very nice lens :) I sold mine ages ago and bought another recently because I missed it

Skywatcher
30-04-2010, 12:50 PM
It doesn't have the instant magic 'wow' of the 100-400, and I guess the 70-200 and you have to 'work it' a little more - even as I type this I'm not entirely sure what that means its just the feel of it :lol: - but it does give that lovely creaminess to skin tones you like, its a light portable lens and the only time I have taken it off the camera was to shoot beasties at a distance. I fully appreciate you are looking to use it in different ways but 95% of the pics on my holiday thread were taken with it ,and to me at least it seems to be a good compromise for a very wide range. It is also a darn sight cheaper than a lot of the L lenses and the IS is superb IMO

Beccaberry
30-04-2010, 03:51 PM
Wellllll :)

The 24-70 yep, I hated mine.

the 24-105 is a really nice walkabout lens. It does have some barrell and pincushion distortion at the wide end. Nothing you can't fix but worth knowing about.

The 17-40 is a great wide lens (the 10-22 is stunning on your 400 as long as you never go to a full frame)

If you REALLLLLY want to talk about portraits though, 85mm 1.2 ;-) is quite incredible and used extensively by Bambi Cantrell for her dreamy portrait/wedding style. Even a cheapy 85mm 1.8 is nice although 85 gets a LITTLE long on an APS-c camera but its a better focal length in terms of look than a 50 for portraits.

The Canon 35mm f/1.4 L USM lens is just beyond amazingly good as well.

I'll have one of each please!!! :wink:

keith
30-04-2010, 03:55 PM
I'll have one of each please!!! :wink:

Hey you've got to choose a couple haven't you? :) have you chosen yet?

Beccaberry
30-04-2010, 03:59 PM
I do!! But not til early summer, so I'm watching this thread carefully :yes:

Skywatcher
30-04-2010, 04:04 PM
7d - drool

;)

keith
30-04-2010, 04:07 PM
7d - drool

;)

:-D

Britchick
30-04-2010, 05:21 PM
i have a big birthday next year so the 7d may feature:yes: watch this space!

keith
30-04-2010, 05:45 PM
i have a big birthday next year so the 7d may feature:yes: watch this space!

I have the 7d as well as the 5dMKII (and others) and I can honestly say that the 7d is the best they've made so far (other than you know, the 1ds etc which as huge and heavy)

The difference between the 7d and the last generation of cameras is HUGE and to be honest, it makes the 5dmkII look old and sluggish :/

I'm SURE there'll be a 5dKIII or a 3d which will have 7d features and a full frame but until they do, the 7d is seriously wonderful.

Skywatcher
30-04-2010, 06:15 PM
How much do I wish Id gone for that now in retrospect

keith
30-04-2010, 06:29 PM
How much do I wish Id gone for that now in retrospect

argh noonnonoono I knew you'd say that. Soon as I typed it I thought doh.

The camera you bought was spot on exactly right for your needs plus headroom to grow with your experience :yes: if you'd bought the 7d, you'd have been then trying to skimp on lenses or whatever. The lenses are more important than the camera I promise you :yes:

As I sit here looking at the fancy 7d which as I said, I think is brilliant, I know that if you gave me the very lowest level DSLR from canon (or nikon or sony) it wouldn't be the camera that would be keeping me back, it'd be my own abilities, composition and so on. That's not me being silly and modest, it's just me being honest :lol:

I love the gadgets as you know ;-) but end of the day camera v lens collection isn't even worth a split second thought. Get your lens collection first because they'll genuinely give you new possibilities AND they'll keep their value much more than a camera body will.

Britchick
30-04-2010, 06:36 PM
Caitlin wants my 400d when i get a new camera, how cool is that? Can't wait to start taking her out with me and comparing shots etc.

Skywatcher
30-04-2010, 06:43 PM
:lol: don't worry mate there was no way I was going to get a camera like that as a first one - I need to learn and move up - I'm fully aware of that - the only think I would be making use of at the moment is the extra FPS on burst which would be great for birds in flight :yes:

Skywatcher
30-04-2010, 06:45 PM
Caitlin wants my 400d when i get a new camera, how cool is that? Can't wait to start taking her out with me and comparing shots etc.

I love sharing hobbies with the kids :yes: having them look through the scope has been some of my happiest memories

keith
30-04-2010, 06:45 PM
:lol: don't worry mate there was no way I was going to get a camera like that as a first one - I need to learn and move up - I'm fully aware of that - the only think I would be making use of at the moment is the extra FPS on burst which would be great for birds in flight :yes:

the AF is far superior too *cough* :lol:

Skywatcher
30-04-2010, 06:47 PM
:dozey: oh you are helping a lot :lol:

keith
30-04-2010, 06:55 PM
:dozey: oh you are helping a lot :lol:

I don't believe ANYONE has EVER called me helpful :lol: they've called me a lot of OTHER things but helpful? nah :D