ipad release confirmed on BBC just now 28th May

[Skywatcher]

:mental:

BBC News - iPad global launch date confirmed by Apple (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10103059.stm)

[Skywatcher]

The prices are appauling though :(

£504 for the basic 16gb

[Keith]

The prices are appauling though :(

£504 for the basic 16gb

total rip off :( they've waited until just after the election so the pound is at its VERY lowest so they can claim it's not them it's the exchange rate.

Sigh.

[Keith]

The prices are appauling though :(

£504 for the basic 16gb

hang on, that page says 16GB, wifi only - £429 inc vat not £504 ? (although that's about £100 more than it should be)

[Deafjeff]

oh dear.....

Not sure if I can afford or even justify £499 for ipad.......

[Skywatcher]

I thought it was 429 +vat

[Keith]

I thought it was 429 +vat

*looks* like inc to me

[Britchick]

BBC News - iPad global launch date confirmed by Apple (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10103059.stm)

[Skywatcher]

Thats the same link at the top of the page hun :D

[Deafjeff]

Need some advice...

I am a part timer free lance and pay my own tax as well as working full time.

I am claiming my lap top via tax at the moment..... would I be able to claim ipad as well?

If so how can I 'justify' ipad if I have lap top...

[Skywatcher]

Apple (United Kingdom) - Press Releases - iPad Available in Nine More Countries on May 28th (http://www.apple.com/uk/pr/library/2010/05/07ipad.html)

Ok looks like includes vat - will not as bad I suppose - still going for 64gb - hope I can order for delivery

[daveann]

glad i got mine in the states $536 inc tax

[Britchick]

Thats the same link at the top of the page hun :D

doh!

[Skywatcher]

and iBooks will be avaliable :mental:

[Deafjeff]

and iBooks will be avaliable :mental:

really?! where the info from?!

[Britchick]

is anyone going for the 3G one?

[Deafjeff]

glad i got mine in the states $536 inc tax

mmhh is it worth waiting until Sept to buy them over the state?

[Deafjeff]

Nope thinking of getting 32gb ho hum....

[Keith]

is anyone going for the 3G one?

Im still vaguely pondering it :/ some of our customers are using them and they say it works very well and of course adds cell assisted GPS. (they've all bought from the states and just cut a regular sized sim card down to micro sized to make it work)

[Skywatcher]

Jeff it was from the Apple link at the top of this page that I put up - iBooks will go live on May 28th as well

[daveann]

i ment to say mine had been opened in my case and they had put it back in the wrong way round and hadnt wrapped it back up in the towels it was wrapped in but thank goodness it was ok :)
Dave is waiting for ibooks i just want to be able to get at the apps easily when there launched over here :)

[Britchick]

Im still vaguely pondering it :/ some of our customers are using them and they say it works very well and of course adds cell assisted GPS. (they've all bought from the states and just cut a regular sized sim card down to micro sized to make it work)

US ones aren't sim locked then?

[Deafjeff]

Jeff it was from the Apple link at the top of this page that I put up - iBooks will go live on May 28th as well

:tralala: (I love this thingy!)

Can someone create a ipad wave?!

[Keith]

US ones aren't sim locked then?

evidently not and I'm pretty sure they were clear on that point during the launch, basically saying that there wont be lockins etc. and you can buy service from whoever offers the best data deal

[Britchick]

evidently not and I'm pretty sure they were clear on that point during the launch, basically saying that there wont be lockins etc. and you can buy service from whoever offers the best data deal

:excitedbed:

[Skywatcher]

some people have apparently hacked it and made their own micro sim cards

I wonder if O2 will be doing any sort of tie in deal with those who have iPhones

[Keith]

some people have apparently hacked it and made their own micro sim cards

yep one of our customers sent me extensive photos of him hacking a normal sim card to bits with scissors :lol: doesnt look hard tbh


I wonder if O2 will be doing any sort of tie in deal with those who have iPhones

the RUMOURS are saying that most of the major providers will be offering free 3g ipads if you buy a certain tariff :/ I've not heard of any iphone tie in yet though

[Britchick]

the RUMOURS are saying that most of the major providers will be offering free 3g ipads if you buy a certain tariff :/ I've not heard of any iphone tie in yet though

I will be patient!!

[Skywatcher]

I won't

[josh.p.]

I'm shocked at the price though, was seriously expecting it to be a bit more expensive than that (but then I am a bit pessimistic about these sorts of things) It's still really expensive compared to the US price though :yes:

[ukwdwnut]

are they serious with those prices :lolchair: :insane:

[Deafjeff]

I wonder when we will know about the network, if we are expected to order it on Monday then how do we know about the network unless it is wifi only on Monday then the 3G model later on?

[josh.p.]

are they serious with those prices :lolchair: :insane:
It is a bit expensive compared to the USA, but I'd be willing to pay that much (if I had it! ha) It's a fantastic device with SO many uses :yes: You sure you're not just having a pop cos it's an apple product? :wink: :wink:

[ukwdwnut]

It is a bit expensive compared to the USA, but I'd be willing to pay that much (if I had it! ha) It's a fantastic device with SO many uses :yes: You sure you're not just having a pop cos it's an apple product? :wink: :wink:

what uses does it have?

dont give a monkeys who makes it, im not against apple products in any shape or form :taunt::tongue: :lol:

[josh.p.]

what uses does it have?

dont give a monkeys who makes it, im not against apple products in any shape or form :taunt::tongue: :lol:
Have you seen the device in action? There's too many to even think of! It's really amazing. They've sold 1 million in 28 days of it being released- I think that says it all :wink:

[Skywatcher]

I agree I didn't get it at first now I'm pretty sure , having spoken to people who own one that I will have it in my hand all day

Anyone who owns an iPhone or an iTouch will tell you how much they use it - instant web access with perfect portablility instant email hundreds of thousands of apps - add in excellent photo sharing, wordprocessing, films, iBooks ( I do think its the future) - I do believe it is the first step on the road to an incredible advance in the digital age and it is not a 'gimick' or just a 'big itouch' at all

[Dawn]

I agree I didn't get it at first now I'm pretty sure , having spoken to people who own one that I will have it in my hand all day

Anyone who owns an iPhone or an iTouch will tell you how much they use it - instant web access with perfect portablility instant email hundreds of thousands of apps - add in excellent photo sharing, wordprocessing, films, iBooks ( I do think its the future) - I do believe it is the first step on the road to an incredible advance in the digital age and it is not a 'gimick' or just a 'big itouch' at all

And don't forget it finds a toilet for you. Best app ever. :thumbsup:

[Skywatcher]

Yep :yes: and I have used that twice now to great effect :D

[Dawn]

I use it all the time. :D

Somewhere quiet to sit playing Angry Birds. :rotfl:

[Skywatcher]

Lisa is now obsessed as well :D - she kept saying 'your obsessed' :rolleyes:

Now she has the glint in her eye

[catrancher]

You've all gone mad! Stark, raving, bonkers I tell you! :mental:







I helped! :yes:

Tom (:macwave:... nutters for sure!)

[Deafjeff]

What do you mean?!

:tralala:

mad? dont be daft!

:mental:

:tralala:

:mental:

[Deafjeff]

I wonder when apple will update the website ho hum.....

[ukwdwnut]

Have you seen the device in action? There's too many to even think of! It's really amazing. They've sold 1 million in 28 days of it being released- I think that says it all :wink:

nope thats why i asked lol. people buy gadgets for the sake of buying gadgets, you only need to look at our leader to know that ;) :lol:

[josh.p.]

nope thats why i asked lol. people buy gadgets for the sake of buying gadgets, you only need to look at our leader to know that ;) :lol:
Whilst it might be true in Keith's case, I don't think there are 1 million people with enough disposable income to buy it 'just for the sake of a gadget' Mick! :wink:

YouTube - iPad (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=iPad&aq=f)
Apple (United Kingdom) - iPad - The best way to experience the web, email & photos (http://www.apple.com/uk/ipad/)

There's some more info for you :)

[ukwdwnut]

Whilst it might be true in Keith's case, I don't think there are 1 million people with enough disposable income to buy it 'just for the sake of a gadget' Mick! :wink:

YouTube - iPad (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=iPad&aq=f)
Apple (United Kingdom) - iPad - The best way to experience the web, email & photos (http://www.apple.com/uk/ipad/)

There's some more info for you :)

i think if im gonna get any idea of what it does im gonna look it up :lol:

[Deafjeff]

Help!

I just had a prang of 'being sensible' bug....

I have macbook pro why would I need an ipad?!

Help!

Guys help me out there :yes:

[mainecoon lover]

So guys do i buy here or in New York when i am there

[Skywatcher]

I'm not anticipating problems but if I did have any I'd be happier with a uk one

[mainecoon lover]

I'm not anticipating problems but if I did have any I'd be happier with a uk one

Would Apple UK not deal with any problems i had with it ?

[Skywatcher]

Oh probably I'm just paranoid about stuff like that.

[josh.p.]

My iPod touch was from 5th avenue Apple store and the guy at the store said it's an international warranty :yes:

[Skywatcher]

Cheers josh. I really have no other option though

[Britchick]

Cheers josh. I really have no other option though

well you could fly over and get one :tongue:

[mainecoon lover]

well you could fly over and get one :tongue:

Very good advice :D

[Skywatcher]

If I did you could bet that when I got there it would be out of stock :lol:

now as it's released on a Friday do I get it delivered to work. Hmmm

[Britchick]

if you preorder tomorrow when will they take payment for the ipad?

[josh.p.]

I think you'll pre-order and pay in store Brit :yes:

[Britchick]

I think you'll pre-order and pay in store Brit :yes:

I want to have it delivered, is that not possible? was just thinking if they don't charge till say shipping which is after the 20th i don't have to pay till June on my CC which was when i was going to get it for my birthday.

I suppose i could drive to Meadowhall after work.....................


now do i get the 16 or 32GB? def decided only to get wifi.

Oh and what time will you be able to reserve from?


Julie .............. :apple: not getting excited one little bit!

[catrancher]

The way it worked over here was that you pre-ordered from the web site. Then you could choose to either:

pick it up in store on the day of release,
- or -
have it delivered.


Of course, pre-ordering means you didn't have to get up at 4 AM to get to the store and take your chances in line with all the other fanatics.

But where's the fun in that? :mental:

Of course, since we're in different countries, your mileage may vary! :laugh2:

Tom (:macwave:... just one of the crowd!)

[Britchick]

I would have to go after work so guess I'll have to have it delivered, I do know my UPS delivery guy though, last time he came to the house and I was out he remembered where I worked and brought it to me at work! that's customer service for you :thumbsup:

[josh.p.]

I want to have it delivered, is that not possible? was just thinking if they don't charge till say shipping which is after the 20th i don't have to pay till June on my CC which was when i was going to get it for my birthday.

I suppose i could drive to Meadowhall after work.....................


now do i get the 16 or 32GB? def decided only to get wifi.

Oh and what time will you be able to reserve from?


Julie .............. :apple: not getting excited one little bit!
Ohh, you should be able to get it delivered :yes: when I pre-ordered snow leopard they charged me for it on the day I pre-ordered it :yes:

[Deafjeff]

So....

Who is going to pre order it tomorrow?

[Skywatcher]

Me :D - I bet NOONe could have guessed that :laugh: infact I may check at midnight

I can't believe how much of an apple nerd I am - pretty sure I had one of the first 27 inch iMacs to hit the UK as well

[Deafjeff]

I am thinking of doing the same!!!!!!!

checking it out at 12am, however, I am pretty tired been working all weekend and stayed up late on Thurs/Fri...

However, will have a peep at midnight to see if there is an option for collection at the store otherwise I will be extremely upset :unsure:

[josh.p.]

Not me :sigh:

[Britchick]

if i give you my CC number will you order mine too please? pmsl

[Skywatcher]

So.... How nailed on is it that it will be delivered on the Friday ? Suppose I really should get it sent to work.

[Keith]

So.... How nailed on is it that it will be delivered on the Friday ? Suppose I really should get it sent to work.

Again, in my experience, in the US they nail the release day even if it's a saturday. On rare occasions for software, it's arrived the day before!

In the UK it's been a lot worse. Generally stuff has tended to arrive either on the day as long as it's a weekday or a couple of days later with no real indication of when. (the 27" imac was far more trackable than most stuff IVe ordered)

So whilst there's hope for sure, unless they claim very clearly "you'll receive on may 28th" I would plan for a three/four day window.

[Britchick]

Will they deliver to an address that your card isn't registered to?

[Keith]

Will they deliver to an address that your card isn't registered to?

pretty sure they will yep

[josh.p.]

Snow leopard was a good few days after the release date for me :sigh:

[Britchick]

I might have mine by July then!

[Britchick]

16 or 32 gb? Not going to store photos on there just a couple of movies, apps and music

[Keith]

Snow leopard was a good few days after the release date for me :sigh:

yeah me too. I think they send it out on the right day but they use some stupid cheap delivery company which takes ages and unlike the US, they dont have a priority shipping option

[Keith]

16 or 32 gb? Not going to store photos on there just a couple of movies, apps and music

well only you know how many movies and how much music you have.

Most people/places I've seen are saying that the 32GB is the star buy. Not too little, not too much

[Keith]

oooo Apple store down for updating bang on midnight!

[josh.p.]

:D

[Keith]

backup and there we are! ipad pre-order available :D now... to text skywatcher or not hmmmmm

says delivery BY 29th May too so that seems ok!

[josh.p.]

We should all text him at once hahaha

[Keith]

We should all text him at once hahaha

He probably has work early so Im not going to chance it. Im sure he'll order early enough in the morning anyway

Feels very weird for me not to be ordering

[josh.p.]

:sigh: still can't see the preorder page on here! Not that I'll be making use of it..

[Keith]

:sigh: still can't see the preorder page on here! Not that I'll be making use of it..

weird :/

perhaps theyve enabled it only for me just to torture me

[Deafjeff]

I am really gutted that you cannot pick it up from apple store :-(

[Skywatcher]

ORDERED IT :mental:

:D

[Deafjeff]

I am asking apple zillions of question via live chat...... esp the no delivery option online grrr will update you all soon

[Britchick]

thank you for your order Julie :mental: Happy Birthday to me............happy birthday to me................:wavehands::dance::tralala::tral ala::tralala:

32GB :thumbsup:

[Skywatcher]

oo did you order the case and the camera connector as well :thumbsup:

I have buyers remorse wondering if I should have gone for the 32 now :unsure:

[Britchick]

no, as it's for my birthday at the end of June (ordered it now just in case it became unavailable) am going to ask others for the accessories.

I was going to get the 16GB but looked on my phone(16gb) and i only have 3.4 left! have only got UP and 5 music videos on it and 99 apps lol

[Skywatcher]

The wording suggests it may even come before the 28th :mental:

[Britchick]

yep delivered BY the 28th, can you imagine if it comes early???

[Skywatcher]

ok I'm happier now - I won't be jumping for v2 when it comes and I want to make sure that storage is never an 'issue' if possible I want my whole iPhoto library on there

[Skywatcher]

Yep got it delievered to work as I am there all the time apart from weekends so I'm stuck if it comes on a Saturday

[Deafjeff]

*SCREAM!*

*SCREAM!*

:tralala:

Ordered mine! 32GB YAY!

DId anyone order case? (I did!)

What about apple care is it worth it?

[Skywatcher]

:macwave: I ordered the case and the camera connector as they said they too would be delievered BY the 28th :D

Didn't get applecare have o admit but then we do have Keith :lol:

[Britchick]

ok I'm happier now - I won't be jumping for v2 when it comes and I want to make sure that storage is never an 'issue' if possible I want my whole iPhoto library on there

if i could have justified it i would have too :thumbsup: decided not to go for 3g in the end.


Yep got it delievered to work as I am there all the time apart from weekends so I'm stuck if it comes on a Saturday

I've got it to home, will leave a note on my door to deliver to work:thumbsup: Me and the UPS guy gotta thing going on - why wouldn't he want to come and visit an office full of community nurses? LOL


*SCREAM!*

*SCREAM!*

:tralala:

Ordered mine! 32GB YAY!



YAY we're IPAD twins:thumbsup:

[Deafjeff]

indeed!!! yay!

Drat, forgot the camera connector grrr!

I am not sure if apple care is worth it at all for ipad as it is expensive purchase (although) I have never brought any for my lap tops

[Deafjeff]

I think we should have a new ipad wave :yes:

:macwave:temporary wave until ipad wave!)

[Skywatcher]

Jeff as its a preorder you can go back and edit your order to include the camera connector.

I love that I can share this with your guys :macwave: :D

[Deafjeff]

Poor woman at the end of the live chat....

Confirmed some stuff.....

Delivery will be on 28th :yes:

Payment will be paid on 28th :yes:

Ibooks will be ready on 28th :yes:

What kind of books will be ready on 28th is still :unsure:

Could not explain why the store collection is not an option :nono:

Jeff is excited :yes:

[Deafjeff]

Jeff as its a preorder you can go back and edit your order to include the camera connector.

I love that I can share this with your guys :macwave: :D

Me too, I guess what we all doing on Friday evening.......

sending messages via ipad :ROFL1:

[Dawn]

Do you know something. Just between us 'k, no telling anyone.

Adrian says we do not need to pre-order one.
















I'm actually completely not sure whether I agree with him. :unsure:

[Deafjeff]

Jeff as its a preorder you can go back and edit your order to include the camera connector.

I love that I can share this with your guys :macwave: :D

Tries to do this but does not allow me to add anything extra :nono:

Will go to the store next day and buy them me think.... :yes:

Noticed on the delivery option 'fast ship' (EMEA) whatever that means!

ooooeeerrr!

[Skywatcher]

I hope if the camera connector and case isn't ready for the 28th then theiPad will still be delivered - although 90% of what I want it for involves using the connector

[Deafjeff]

Do you know something. Just between us 'k, no telling anyone.

Adrian says we do not need to pre-order one.
















I'm actually completely not sure whether I agree with him. :unsure:

GASP!

Inside information?! :unsure:

[Skywatcher]

Do you know something. Just between us 'k, no telling anyone.

Adrian says we do not need to pre-order one.
















I'm actually completely not sure whether I agree with him. :unsure:

*does bestest Gordon Brown impression*

' gggggcht I agree with Dawn on this '

:D :carpediem: you could put films and stuff on it and apps to keep the boy happy in August - you itouch is too small for that :wink: - and and and :mental: you could type your trip report as it happens

now THERE is a thought

[Deafjeff]

MMMhh what do you think of 02 tariffs?

O2 | Tariffs for the Apple iPad (http://shop.o2.co.uk/ipadtariffs/index.html)

[Deafjeff]

I am now starting to wonder if I should have the 3G ipad......

[Skywatcher]

:lol: nah mate the tariffs look far too pricey to me for the amount of time you'd use it ;)

[Deafjeff]

:lol: nah mate the tariffs look far too pricey to me for the amount of time you'd use it ;)


mmmhh but what attracts me the most is the pay to go option......

[Skywatcher]

£2 a day seems steep to me - I expect that if theyare monitoring its use then at some point during most days you might get wifi drop out and the 3g would kick in - if that happened on 20 days a month it would cost £40

I am dissapointed there wasn't an option to tie in if you have an o2 iphone contract - if it was me I would have said to people - free iphone 3g if you extend your iphone monthly payment plan - then I might have thought about it

[Deafjeff]

Useful info.....

iPad 3G Test Notes - iPad 3G - Gizmodo (http://gizmodo.com/5528240/ipad-3g-test-notes)

[Deafjeff]

£2 a day seems steep to me - I expect that if theyare monitoring its use then at some point during most days you might get wifi drop out and the 3g would kick in - if that happened on 20 days a month it would cost £40

I am dissapointed there wasn't an option to tie in if you have an o2 iphone contract - if it was me I would have said to people - free iphone 3g if you extend your iphone monthly payment plan - then I might have thought about it

ah!

Very valid point, I would have thought you go onto the 3G and 'buy' some airtime.....but didnt think they would automatic charge us... mmmhh

Maybe there is an option where you tell the ipad not to connect 3g if you dropped out of wifi?

[Skywatcher]

I expect so :yes: still if I haven't got it thats one less thig to worry about :lol:

I wonder what the dock is like that it comes with :unsure: I assume I can plug it into the plug I got with the iphone :unsure:

[Britchick]

is there a dock that comes with it? :unsure:

Dawn-i'm being really thick - what do you mean?

[catrancher]

I wonder what the dock is like that it comes with :unsure: I assume I can plug it into the plug I got with the iphone :unsure:

It doesn't come with a dock. :thumbsdown:

Just a cable with the 30 pin plug on one end and a USB connector on the other. It appears to be the same cable as for the iPhone. At least they're interchangeable.

Tom (:macwave:... sits back and watches the frenzy)

[Keith]

is there a dock that comes with it? :unsure:



I dont think so

In the box

* iPad
* Dock Connector to USB Cable
* 10W USB Power Adapter
* Documentation

So ipad, cable from the connector on the bottom (which they call the dock connector) to USB for charging/connecting to the computer AND connecting to the power adapter, Power adapter itself, documentation (which as tom says is like a single sheet of paper or something)

[Deafjeff]

I am going to sound really thick now :yes:

What would you use dock for?

[Keith]

I am going to sound really thick now :yes:

What would you use dock for?

You'd leave it connected to a computer so it makes it nice and easy to come back to your desk, dump your ipad on the dock and you'd immediately have syncing, audio etc without having to connect/reconnect/disconnect cables all the time

[Deafjeff]

oooohh I can see it! Although macbook pro is my main computer not the imac so dock would not be suitable for me at the moment.

TUTS!

[Keith]

I'm not going to rush to get a dock either.

I'd like to see both the Apple case + the incase case to decide which I want and then the camera connector will be essential too

[Deafjeff]

I have ordered case from apple, as got four cats and a dog so me think it is wise to get case!

Will pick up the camera connector thingy in Cardiff on 29th be interesting to see if there is any ipad left on 29th!

Hopefully will be in the position to have 'celebration' coffee in town after my 'treatment' on 28th

[Deafjeff]

Still cant decide re ipad or ipad 3g sigh...

[Keith]

It'll be interesting to see what stocks are like of the camera connector/cases etc! My understanding is that in Florida they're rarer than a democratic voting process!

[Keith]

Still cant decide re ipad or ipad 3g sigh...

I think if REALLY REALLY undecided, the 3g one makes most sense. It's another 100 but you won't be constantly wishing you had it. However, I wouldn't sacrifice lots of space for a "maybe I'd use 3g". So I wouldnt for example go from a 64GB wifi down to a 16GB 3g.

All in all, for me, I think the 32GB 3g is most sensible but having said that, I suspect the 3g would get such occasional use that if I have any trouble getting the 3g, I'll "make do LOL" with either a 32GB or 64GB wifi

[Skywatcher]

I like the idea of teh dock so I can use it as a digital photo fram BUT from what I have seen of the case you can turn it into a landscap photofram by the look of it

:mental:

genuinely excited - is there any way it can live up to this expectation and hype :lol:

[Deafjeff]

I am really amaze at how many people are quite anti-ipad :unsure:

Have I done the right thing?! :surrender:

[catrancher]

genuinely excited - is there any way it can live up to this expectation and hype :lol:

Quite possibly. :thumbsup:

Tom (:macwave:... just you wait!)

[Deafjeff]

It is true that ipad's mail doesn't allow group addressing?!

[Britchick]

I think you can have it portrait too Chris

[Skywatcher]

Jeff my friend you have ordered just enjoy the excitement of getting one - you are amongst friends here and we will all be counting down the minutes until they arrive - who cares what others say

You won't miss 3G I'm sure, heck even I have had a wobble about that and I have been very anti 3G from the start

In simple terms if it doesn't come up to our expectations we can tar and feather Keith and Tom :lol:

[catrancher]

Seriously folks. I find that mine has just somehow "blended" in with my life style. It's not like I even think about it much anymore. It just goes with me and in the evening after I've gotten off work, and shut down my main computers, it's just there.

Telling me I've got email.

Letting me browse Secrets.

Looking things up on Wikipedia.

Check the weather forecast.

Reading a book, watching a video, or listening to music.

And finally, bumping off really annoying pigs! :thumbsup:

It's just become an integral part of my daily existence. Only thing I'd notice about it anymore was if it broke. Then I'd notice.

Tom (:macwave:... integrated!)

[Keith]

I am really amaze at how many people are quite anti-ipad :unsure:

Have I done the right thing?! :surrender:

You've done the right thing :yes:

Whether it was from Apple, Microsoft or whoever, I'd be saying the same thing, this is the start of a new era in how people use computers :yes:

It's the start of the move away from large desktops for most tasks, to more personal devices. It's a move away from the mouse towards direct touch input which lets face it, makes a heck of a lot more sense! Apple are at the forefront of moving away from folders and files to Application centric use.. in other words, you dont go through millions of folders to find things, your apps simply know which files it can use and shows them to you.

It's also important for the largest change in computing which is the move away from local storage in desktops to storage and applications in the cloud, on the internet :yes: When all your apps and data are out there, automatically upgraded as and when, automatically backed up for you, you don't need huge desktops and huge hard disks that die and lose everything. Nope, all you need is an ipad (or successors) and a connection.

It's going to take a bit of imagination and we need a TON of new apps, but we're seeing a new era here :yes:

[Skywatcher]

See Tom thats whats happened to the iPhone for me - never realised I needed it until I had it - now I'm not sure I could go back to any other sort of phone.

I am still awed by how amazing the multitouch glass technology is.

Having not seen iBooks are the titles avaliable new ones and how do they compare price wise?

[Skywatcher]

Keith I said at a NHS computer conference 10 years ago that thin client thick server was the way things should be done not only as part of a business but personal computing use as well and people looked at me like I was daft

:macwave: I'm a visionary I tells ya :lol:

[Keith]

Keith I said at a NHS computer conference 10 years ago that thin client thick server was the way things should be done not only as part of a business but personal computing use as well and people looked at me like I was daft

:macwave: I'm a visionary I tells ya :lol:

you are indeed sir :worship:

From a computer science perspective, the thin v thick eras go in cycles. You can see it with the mainframe and thin clients, then PCs and now back to thin with the web.

The NHS should always have been thin client as you quite rightly said!

However thin client has never really been able to reach out to homes and mobile devices in the past. With the global network that is the Internet, that's now possible and we should all be able to walk around with the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy :)

Laptops are too large, netbooks too clunky, phones too small.

Yep, congratulations to all you iPad visionaries, you're leading the way :yes:

[Deafjeff]

You've done the right thing :yes:

Whether it was from Apple, Microsoft or whoever, I'd be saying the same thing, this is the start of a new era in how people use computers :yes:

It's the start of the move away from large desktops for most tasks, to more personal devices. It's a move away from the mouse towards direct touch input which lets face it, makes a heck of a lot more sense! Apple are at the forefront of moving away from folders and files to Application centric use.. in other words, you dont go through millions of folders to find things, your apps simply know which files it can use and shows them to you.

It's also important for the largest change in computing which is the move away from local storage in desktops to storage and applications in the cloud, on the internet :yes: When all your apps and data are out there, automatically upgraded as and when, automatically backed up for you, you don't need huge desktops and huge hard disks that die and lose everything. Nope, all you need is an ipad (or successors) and a connection.

It's going to take a bit of imagination and we need a TON of new apps, but we're seeing a new era here :yes:

Feel so much better thanks guys!

[catrancher]

Having not seen iBooks are the titles avaliable new ones and how do they compare price wise?

Looked this morning. The NY Times bestseller list is there for example. Prices on it range from $9.99 to $17.99 with most of the titles falling into the $9.99 to $12.99 range.

Older, previously published stuff isn't as prolific. The Hitchiker's Guide for example! It's getting better but it's not quite there yet. :sigh:

Only thing I don't really like about digital books is that if I buy a digital book, the only way my DW can read it is if I let her use my iPad. Sharing within the family kind of thing. With a real, bound book, I can give it to her when I'm done. If they could fix this kind of thing, digital would be outstanding. :yes:

Unless of course, you're a true bibliophile and the collections the thing for you.

Tom (:macwave:... huked on fonics werkd for me!)

[Deafjeff]

Ah.... mmhh didnt think of that....

At the moment I am sharing some of my books with my DH, can see a problem in my house ho hum.......

[Deafjeff]

Telling me I've got email.



Can it do group email?

[Britchick]

A shining new era is tiptoeing nearer. :)

[Skywatcher]

and thats where we feature , just listen to teacher :)

[Skywatcher]

Thick thick thick question - never set up my iPhone for e-mail as I was concerend about getting emails I needed to print onto a device I couldn't print off - is that a daft thought :unsure:

[catrancher]

Can it do group email?

Not just yet. Perhaps later this year. In the meantime, there's a number of iPhone apps you can get that will do that sort of thing quite well if it's that important to you.

Tom (:macwave:... groupless!)

[Keith]

Thick thick thick question - never set up my iPhone for e-mail as I was concerend about getting emails I needed to print onto a device I couldn't print off - is that a daft thought :unsure:

Ah email :) if only we knew someone who owned an Email company :wiggle:

The very short answer to avoid boring anyone :lol:, if you use IMAP or Exchange email or Gmail or mobileme then any email you read will stay safely on your server and so you can download it elsewhere as well :yes:

There's a lot lot lot more I'd like to say but I have a bias and some self interest so I'll just smile and answer direct questions :lol:

[catrancher]

Thick thick thick question - never set up my iPhone for e-mail as I was concerend about getting emails I needed to print onto a device I couldn't print off - is that a daft thought :unsure:

If I understand what you're saying, it's a bit of a complicated thought. :mental:

Keith can probably explain this better but I'll give it a shot. He can chime in later after I've completely confused the issue. Also, keep in mind, this is what I do. Your mileage may vary.

This is going to be a bit long winded so be patient!

I use my Mac as my primary email machine. If I want to print messages, I do it from my Mac. Having said that, I still want to be able to read my messages on my iPhone or my iPad and either keep them or delete them if I really don't like the sender. :laugh2:

Now, there are typically two type of email accounts. They're called either POP or IMAP. Most everybody has a POP account. For years, that's what ISP's gave you. IMAP is newer and fundamentally different.

With POP accounts (BTW, that stands for Post Office Protocol), it's a download and delete type of thing. This is a simplification but that's it in a nutshell. Your machine (Mac, iPhone, iPad, etc), contacts the server, logs in, gets your email messages and downloads them to your device, then deletes the messages from the server. This saves the ISP buckets full of disk space (and money) since they don't have to keep your messages around.

However, this also creates a problem for you. If you download your messages to your Mac (or whatever), how can you read them on your iPad or iPhone? The simple answer is that with a POP account, you can't.

What to do? :unsure:

IMAP to the rescue. :thumbsup:

With an IMAP email account, your messages stay on the servers. You can check your IMAP email account with any device where you've got that account setup. Your Mac, your iPhone, or your iPad. Even web interfaces to IMAP accounts work the same. Since your messages stay on the servers, you see the same thing from each of your devices. If you delete a message, it delete's the message from the server which in turn, makes it appear like it's gone from all your devices. :happydance:

Now, assuming you've got a POP account or two, where do you get an IMAP account if you don't have one. Well, the Apple .Me we were talking about is one place. Google gmail is another.

What I've done with my accounts is taken my POP accounts (I have three), and set them to automatically forward to my Apple .Me account. The .Me account is IMAP. So then, I put together rules on my Mac for this account to move email messages around to various folders based on things like the "To" address, or the "From" address, or the contents of the "Subject" line. I keep the POP accounts setup in my various email programs on my devices but since they're automatically forwarding to my IMAP account, there's no harm in keeping them around. There's nothing ever in them. It got forwarded. However, it DOES give me one big advantage. By keeping those POP accounts setup in my email programs, I can use any one of my addresses as my "From" address on any emails I send. That means if one of my POP accounts is "snorklebob@whangfooie.net" and my IMAP account is "billyjoebobfungo@imap.net", I can send messages using either of those addresses. I just have to remember to change the "from" address when I compose an email.

And that's my long winded explanation. I now see Keith has replied to this in shorter form so I'll now turn it over to him to beat me mercilessly! :ROFL:

Tom (:macwave:... confusing the issue!)

[catrancher]

The very short answer to avoid boring anyone :lol:

Oh Gawd! I've gone and bored them! Probably to death! http://homepage.mac.com/twgower/.pictures/smilies/lmaof.gif

Tom (:macwave:... tell us email stories Uncle Keith!)

[Keith]

Perfect explanation Sir iTom :yes:

[catrancher]

Perfect explanation Sir iTom :yes:

Stunning! :eek:

A Monday and I got something right. I never could get the hang of Mondays! :unsure:

Tom (:macwave:... watching Keith's countdown go down and hoping for the best!)

[Dawn]

But £500 would be much spending money in August. :sigh:

[Britchick]

But £500 would be much spending money in August. :sigh:

not as much as when the exchange rate was better :tongue:
I like my logic :yes:


I have hotmail and btinternet email going to my iphone. They all go to my inbox on puter, no problems

[Skywatcher]

Thanks Tom - was typing a nice thank you note and the internet broke at work :rolleyes:

Dawn I understand :sigh: - but don't let Adrian stand in the doorway of Dixons at Gatwick :lol:

[Dawn]

I think I really just want one so I can join in all your conversations. :lol:

[mainecoon lover]

Awe i want to pre-order to join the happy bunch but dh has said i have to wait till we get to New York as nearly £100 less. Its only 10 days after you all and this means i will be able to have the 32

[Dawn]

It's cheaper to buy in the US? :unsure:

[mainecoon lover]

It's cheaper to buy in the US? :unsure:

Yes a lot cheaper even with the exchange rate being poor.

[Skywatcher]

A lot yes. :yes: but nit if you have to make a special trip for it. :D you could get one in august tho

[Britchick]

are we there yet? :unsure:

[Deafjeff]

are we there yet? :unsure:

:ROFL:

I love your count down banner!!!

I think those who ordered it should have one!

[josh.p.]

I'd be willing to bet 1 tortoise that Dawn gets an iPad before I do!

[Britchick]

Can I have the tortoise? Lol

[josh.p.]

:rotfl: No-one is getting it! :lol:

[Britchick]

how do i add a case to my order? the only option i'm getting is to cancel. Or i can put in a new order and it's charging me shipping :unsure:

[Keith]

how do i add a case to my order? the only option i'm getting is to cancel. Or i can put in a new order and it's charging me shipping :unsure:

You may need to phone them to amend the order :/

[Britchick]

You may need to phone them to amend the order :/

okay thanks :thumbsup: