Le Cellier

[Isafari]

Le Cellier being made into a Disney Signature Dining experience.


If this does happen, I can imagine price increases and maybe a dress code.
Anyone else heard anything?

[Keith]

yep heard the same... varying dates from as soon as September 2010 although that seems early given the 180 ADRs (although it hasnt stopped them cancelling aDRs in the past)

Signature experience, menu change, price increase and of course 2 dining plan credits

[uscwest]

Since the dress code isn't enforced any way it probably won't matter. However, since it is in the park, I don't think they will have one. Bistro de Paris doesn't have one either I don't believe and it is head and shoulders above any other restaurant at EPCOT IMHO.

[Slowhand]

If they do increase the prices more to a par with some of the other signature restaurants them hopefully it will make it easier to make a reservation.
It may also cut down on the number of unruly children and their parents with a "couldn`t care less" attitude that I hear have been making life a misery for other diners there.

[catrancher]

It may also cut down on the number of unruly children and their parents with a "couldn`t care less" attitude that I hear have been making life a misery for other diners there.

Amen, brother. Amen! :image103:

Please explain to me how one puts a five year olds hands in time out? :unsure:
Just his hands mind you. The rest of him is free to kick the other diners as much as he'd like! :mad:

Tom (:macwave:... they could stand to improve the service also!)

[Tink]

Le Cellier will have to improve their food offerings and service before making it a signature restaurant.

Bistro does have a bit of a recommended dress code. Most guests do change from park attire before going there. I don't know of any place that enforces dress codes other than to ask a male guest to remove a ball cap (just happened over at the Yachtsman).

I think if dress codes are going to be enforced, then the restaurants have to measure up to a place that "deserves" a dress code. Otherwise, they should just be taken down as it's silly to have a policy that is not applied. :rolleyes:

[Slowhand]

I don't know of any place that enforces dress codes other than to ask a male guest to remove a ball cap (just happened over at the Yachtsman).

I saw that happen at Artists Point one evening and the guy seemed very put out about it.
Who are these folks? Maybe they should stick to McDonalds.

[Tink]

Indeed! The person asked to remove his cap at YSH was quite put out about it too, and very rude (reportedly as per his dinner partner) for the remainder of the evening, not liking anything, blah, blah, blah.

If you don't want to remove your hat, fine! That is your "right" (where is that in the consitution, eh? :lol: ). Just recognize that the restaurant doesn't have to allow you in either.

Can you imagine "poor Disney?" They start with a simple request... Men remove hats upon entering the dining room... and get all sorts of unpleasant responses.

No wonder they don't enforce much of anything!

[Keith]

I saw that happen at Artists Point one evening and the guy seemed very put out about it.
Who are these folks? Maybe they should stick to McDonalds.

:wiggle: absolutely!

There are any number of places to go and wear whatever, so why they feel the need to pollute the nice places is beyond me.

[catrancher]

Maybe they should stick to McDonalds.

Gawd, I wish they would. Let those of us who enjoy a fine dining experience actually enjoy it! :mental:

Tom (:macwave:... I can has Cheezeburger?)

[daveann]

well we thought it was only average anyway and had really bad experience there so how they can class this as signature is behond me! i suppose it is a step up from chicken nuggets and fries but its by no way signature!
just my own personal opinion sorry :(

[Slowhand]

No need to apologise. That`s the view of several folk who have dined there recently.
Hopefully they will improve things if this plan goes ahead. :fingers:

[daveann]

i really just think it has been hyped up i just laughed and said i think i am becoming a snob :lol:

[uscwest]

Tink, count me in as one who does not wear standard park attire to Bistro. It is too nice of a restaurant for that. We go back and change.

[Tink]

i really just think it has been hyped up i just laughed and said i think i am becoming a snob :lol:


Well then we both are. :D :D I agree with your summation of Le Cellier. It used to be really wonderful and I do mean years ago. It's still riding on the coattails of that reputation.

Signature smignature! :lol:

John, we do too. :yes:

[Keith]

well we thought it was only average anyway and had really bad experience there so how they can class this as signature is behond me! i suppose it is a step up from chicken nuggets and fries but its by no way signature!
just my own personal opinion sorry :(

oh no need to be sorry!!! and I agree for what it's worth.

I remember dining there in dec 2001. The whole park was very quiet of course after the awful events, so a little exceptional but the cms were brilliant to us. The experience was superb, the food mouthwatering and everything just great.

Since then it's been getting more and more busy and everything else has gone downhill.

I know it's not exactly the restaurant's fault, but the point about unruly kids is well made. Again, not gonna win any friends with this one :( but I feel like the dining plan 1 credit thing encouraged a load of people who wouldn't normally dine in that kind of place to book it :/ as a result, dress and basic manners became nothing but a fond memory.

Obviously I'm not generalising everyone who has the dining plan and heck I've had it myself! but it's a working theory as to why some of these really nice places have gone downhill so quickly

[Slowhand]

I entirely agree with those comments Keith. :yes:

[catrancher]

That and the fact that the Dining Plan now seems to have turned it into "jam 'em in and get 'em out". :thumbsdown:

I really lament the old days when you could actually get ADR's almost anywhere on the day you wanted to dine. And the dining was delightful!

Sigh... :sigh:

Tom (:macwave:... dining snob. And proud of it!)

[Slowhand]

....and I agree with those sentiments too! :thumbsup:
Also, many of the CM`s who work in the restaurants are not in favour of that pesky DP.
Ah well, such is progress I suppose. :sorry:

[catrancher]

Ah well, such is progress I suppose. :sorry:

This is obviously some definition of "progress" with which I am not familiar! :mental:

Tom (:macwave:...stuck in the past!)

[daveann]

I was tactfully staying off the dinning plan debate :( I want to pay for what I eat and have a wonderful experience doing so not be rushed because the next sitting is due in the dinning hall :(

[Keith]

Some folks recently did a bit of a test.

They had one of their group walk up to a disney restaurant and ask for walk in availability for their group, stating they were on the dining plan. They got turned away.

Some minutes later another group member walked up and said in a bit of a whisper "no dining plan or anything else, do you have room?" 80% of the time they were given a place and some of the comments back were very interesting.

[Slowhand]

That`s very encouraging Keith.
However I do know [from a reliable source.:wink:] that the podium staff at the YSH have been told definately no walk ins at all.

[Keith]

That`s very encouraging Keith.
However I do know [from a reliable source.:wink:] that the podium staff at the YSH have been told definately no walk ins at all.

Thats very interesting too Terry! I Wonder why they wouldn't want walk ins?

[Slowhand]

Thats very interesting too Terry! I Wonder why they wouldn't want walk ins?
Not really a reason, however it`s really down to the individual restaurant managers I reckon.
Maybe this approach lessens the risk of folks just strolling in after a day in the parks and thus not adhering to the dress code? :shrug:

[gwennie81]

Hmmm...how do I feel about dress codes at amusement parks? Not sure. I know at the end of the day, except for about 3 months out of the year, down here I'm a sweaty mess. A dress code isn't going to work for me except with some serious prior planning. Do I want to waste precious "fun" time with primping? Just to dine at a restaurant at an amusement park? Not sure. Unless my date was hot! HAHA! He'd better show up with a corsage for me!