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robertcraig
23-11-2010, 03:56 PM
report on the backlash of pat downs Pat-down backlash grows during holiday travel rush - CNN.com (http://bit.ly/cUAD1K#cnn)

Johnie
23-11-2010, 04:26 PM
I think all of this so called extra security measures is ridiculous. It's a complete farce. They are harassing law abiding citizens. The people who DO want to do harm will continue to find ways to circumvent the system.

I imagine they'll be doing full body cavity searches next and I don't have anywhere I need to go that badly.

Britchick
23-11-2010, 04:51 PM
I'm all for good security but the account of the person with a urostomy bag highlights a serious privacy/safeguarding concern. You'd have to pat quite hard to burst one I would think. 90% of the security people I have encountered have been lovely and then we flew to Atlanta...talk about officious.

It's definitely a delicate balance, I don't know what the answer is for sure. At what point do you say enough is enough and take the risk? Glad I'm not making the decisions!

keith
23-11-2010, 04:57 PM
The thing is, there comes a point at which the measures taken have such an impact on normal law abiding people that the terrorists will have achieved their aims anyway! This is what I see as the real danger.

Johnie
23-11-2010, 04:58 PM
I've said it before, the security at the Statue of Liberty is hard core and involves no touching of people. I think the airport security has always been ludicrous and seriously just for show.

Sure I want to be safe but I think this is going over the top. I truly do not think many of the TSA agents are educated on how to deal with people with disabilities and anyone who needs any additional help.

Johnie
23-11-2010, 04:58 PM
The thing is, there comes a point at which the measures taken have such an impact on normal law abiding people that the terrorists will have achieved their aims anyway! This is what I see as the real danger.

AMEN

Britchick
23-11-2010, 05:04 PM
Devils advocate.....imagine you cancel a particular screening and a week later a plane is blown up, what are the public going to say then?

foreverducky
23-11-2010, 05:07 PM
I don't want to put all the TSA workers into a category. But sheesh, they can be some very unhappy people. I remember a few years ago I was flying out of Indy was completely yelled at for not taking off my coat right away. To be honest, I didn't know I needed to. They kept yelling at me, "take off your coat." Over and over.

It's not that I want to take crazy risks, but really? Come on. It's so exhausting: let's turn everything on, take off our shoes, possibly go through body scans, pat downs...is there anything else?

I hope to have internship interviews in January, and well frankly, I'm looking to travel my train as much as possible.

Johnie
23-11-2010, 05:17 PM
As Ihave said before, if a terrorist is hell bent on destruction, nothing is going to stop them. They will find a way. Now, Im not saying we don't have any security but the things that are in place now are over the top. How is my full size bottle of shampoo a threat? How is a bottle of water not ok? Nail clippers? Really.....hey you, hold still so I can hurt you.

foreverducky
23-11-2010, 05:25 PM
Hey, a nail cut too short hurts. ;)

Esmeralda
23-11-2010, 10:49 PM
I want to nail clip you to death............ this may take a while.

Esmeralda
23-11-2010, 10:51 PM
I'm just going to lie on the conveyer belt with my legs akimbo, so if anyone see's me there come and say *hi*

Britchick
23-11-2010, 11:10 PM
I'll get the rubber gloves!

foreverducky
24-11-2010, 12:19 AM
I want to nail clip you to death............ this may take a while.

Let me find my tweezers and then we can duel. :lol:

Esmeralda
24-11-2010, 10:49 AM
Ooer missus thems is fighting words.