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foreverducky
10-05-2012, 09:35 PM
Okay, it appears that with my new job, I will need to provide my own computer. I believe this is the case as it is not a true requirement for my actual job. However, I would like to have a computer where I work.

That leads me to my next question. For those experienced with the iPad, do you think it would do for a work type of device? I may need to do a few notes, but from my understanding that's it. I'm thinking I could buy a keyboard to connect to it, correct?

catrancher
10-05-2012, 11:36 PM
Yes, yes, and yes. :yes:

You can get a external keyboard. And with applications like Pages in your iWork suite, you can easily share documents between your iPad and your iMac. :thumbsup:

Tom (:macwave:... sent from my iPad.)

foreverducky
10-05-2012, 11:45 PM
That's good to know. I thought about buying an apple laptop, but they're an extra $500.

Johnie
11-05-2012, 12:38 AM
Which iPad did you get? The newest one has a speak software so you can just speak your case notes into it and then put them wherever they need to go. The OT at work was showing me. Very cool.

Deafjeff
11-05-2012, 05:15 AM
Or you could down load bamboo notes and write a note with bamboo stylus pen. A friend of mine write notes using this. You can have different colour for different area of work or project.

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Lisa1976
11-05-2012, 08:19 AM
Oooo I didn't know that Jeff, will have to try that. I've just bought a stylus type pen so my clients can sign their contracts on my iAd, makes me feel important, lol :)

foreverducky
11-05-2012, 09:42 AM
I haven't bought one yet. I'm still deciding which road I should go down....ipad (newest version) or an apple laptop. I will have to see what kind of education discount I can get for the laptop.

My feeling on it, is that I want something I will be able to use in and out of work.

That stylus thing sounds way cool!

foreverducky
11-05-2012, 10:00 AM
the iPad is much cheaper than the laptop even with the education discount. Hmm, now which iPad to get. They are selling both the older and newest version. Is the newest version worth getting?

Also, has anyone bought any awesome cases/covers that they recommend?

Tink
11-05-2012, 10:05 AM
I have to say that if you are trying to decide between the two still, go with the laptop. You'll be able to do everything with it and not be limited. :yes:

Now, if you can swing a Mac Air do it! :yes: I LOVE this machine. You will be so very amazed.

If not, then go with a Macbook pro. They are incredible machines too, and I had a really hard time deciding between the pro and the air (but my love of the newest electronic gizmo won out). :D

foreverducky
11-05-2012, 10:14 AM
I have to say that if you are trying to decide between the two still, go with the laptop. You'll be able to do everything with it and not be limited. :yes:

Now, if you can swing a Mac Air do it! :yes: I LOVE this machine. You will be so very amazed.

If not, then go with a Macbook pro. They are incredible machines too, and I had a really hard time deciding between the pro and the air (but my love of the newest electronic gizmo won out). :D

I totally understand what you're saying.

If I buy the iPad, I still have to buy a keyboard and mouse for the office. There goes another 100-150 dollars. It's so hard to stomach the $949 of the latest apple laptop.

Tink
11-05-2012, 10:18 AM
Yes, they are not cheap. And that is the beauty of them. Proportionately, the iPad is not the better value though. I'm not "dissing" iPads, mind it's just to me they are more of a luxury than the necessity that a laptop is (or could be).

Hope that makes sense!

foreverducky
11-05-2012, 10:24 AM
Definitely makes sense (even at 6:24 in the morning)! :yes:

foreverducky
11-05-2012, 10:28 AM
Maybe a stupid question, but you can share easily from an iMac to an apple laptop?

catrancher
11-05-2012, 12:09 PM
Maybe a stupid question, but you can share easily from an iMac to an apple laptop?

Oh absolutely! :yes:

And to an iPad or an iPhone or... you choose.

There are a couple of ways. First is Apple's new iCloud. With iCloud you can have what they're calling "documents in the cloud (http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/documents.html)". What this means is that if you've got iCloud enabled applications on your devices (Apples own iWork suite for example), your documents automatically get synced between your devices using iCloud. My only problem with this approach is that Apple is not giving us (so far), any options on what gets synced and what doesn't. I want and need more control than they're offering. Again... at least so far.

However, there's another way that I much prefer. At least right now. That's by using Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/). With Dropbox, you install a little application on all your devices. Now, any files that you put in Dropbox on one device are available on your other devices. There's only one minor issue with this approach. Apple's iWork suite (Pages, Numbers, Keynote) don't work with it natively. There's workarounds you can do or additional products you can get that will allow you to do it but right now, it's a bit of a pain. Of course, if you're only working with the iWork suite, syncing to iCloud may be all that you need.

Finally, there are specific applications that DO allow you more transparency between your devices. Things like "Noteability (http://gingerlabs.com/cont/notability.php)". If you're just looking to take notes and keep them in sync across all your devices, something like this in combination with Dropbox is probably the way to go. This app (which only runs on the iPad or iPhone) can sync your notes to your Dropbox account as an RTFD document. This format includes text, images, and even audio. Then, on your Mac, you can use the native RTF tools on your Mac like TextEdit to edit the document. Put it back in your Dropbox and it's available again everywhere.

There's really no "perfect" solution yet. Everybody's just starting to hop onto this "cloud" bandwagon. Things will get better, I'm sure. Apple I think will have to provide more user control over what goes into iCloud. Services like Dropbox will continue to improve their integration. Right now, most of it is in it's infancy. I'm sure it'll get better!

Tom (:macwave:... kind of long winded. Again. :sigh:)

catrancher
11-05-2012, 12:18 PM
I totally understand what you're saying.

If I buy the iPad, I still have to buy a keyboard and mouse for the office. There goes another 100-150 dollars. It's so hard to stomach the $949 of the latest apple laptop.


Yes, they are not cheap. And that is the beauty of them. Proportionately, the iPad is not the better value though. I'm not "dissing" iPads, mind it's just to me they are more of a luxury than the necessity that a laptop is (or could be).

Hope that makes sense!


Definitely makes sense (even at 6:24 in the morning)! :yes:

Wait! Don't do anything quite yet. :shocked:

If you can wait until next month, the Apple Worldwide Developers conference happens June 11-15. They have always announced new products there. There's currently rumors of an overhaul to the Macbook Pro lineup. Supposedly making them more Macbook Air like. And even one rumor floating around of a new Macbook Air in Q3 targeted with $799 price tag. This to compete with the Intel Ultrabooks that are coming. Whether it actually happens or not is anybodies guess but I'd certainly wait to see what comes out of WWDC next month.

Tom (:macwave:... patience grasshopper!)

catrancher
11-05-2012, 12:25 PM
If I buy the iPad, I still have to buy a keyboard and mouse for the office.

No mouse. Remember, it's a touch screen device. :D

For a keyboard/case type of thing, there's the Zagg (http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggfolio-ipad-3-keyboard-case.php) ones. There's others. Lots!

Tom (:macwave:... I just like the name Zagg. I'm easily impressed.)

Watchinherskip
11-05-2012, 04:18 PM
Well as an iMac owner and now...ta da...iPad owner I would caution that if you were working with just an iPad I think you would find it a bit tedious being that you would most likely still need a wireless keyboard (if you were planning on the typical work applications, and would not have the mouse to move things along). That being said I was at a NASA workshop and a few of the participants used their iPads with a keyboard and were able to do most everything we needed to do. I LOVE my (ok, now OUR iPad as DW and DD have used it more than I have:tongue:) and think it is the most incredible device but in reality it is like a palm pilot on serious steroids (IMHO). It is a great source of entertainment and information, but I think that even with the productivity suite titles, you will be better off with the fantastic power book...step up and pay a bit more up front and you won't be sorry.

But I did say it was the coolest invention in the world right?:tongue:

foreverducky
11-05-2012, 08:51 PM
Thank you so much for all the advice/suggestions! :worship:

I can definitely wait until June to see what will be new. I will attempt to locate my patience while I wait.

Southern Dad
11-05-2012, 10:03 PM
Suggestion: Older iPad and a MacBook. The AND is important. I can't live without either of mine.


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Tink
12-05-2012, 12:35 AM
Oooooh, nice info regarding June, Catrancher! Herself wants another Mac Air so we'll be watching to see what plays out then too. :yes:

Southern Dad, I like your style!

Johnie
13-05-2012, 02:25 AM
I purchased a MacBook Pro last year. I bought it refurbished with the educational discount. I was also able to buy the Apple Care protection plan. It's a phenomenal computer! So much so that I get very aggravated with my work pc (though that is in part also a server issue).

If you are the type of person who can pay off something in a year, you can take get Apple financing and no finance charges if you pay it off in the year.

keith
13-05-2012, 11:41 AM
Suggestion: Older iPad and a MacBook. The AND is important. I can't live without either of mine.


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Yup I wouldn't want to be without either but today, if you forced me to give one up, I'd have to give up the iPad

I can do everything with my MacBook air/pro I'd just miss the iPad for convenience. The same isn't yet true the other way round though I believe that day is coming

I'm waiting for June hoping I get my 15" screen on an air or 15" pro lighter

Southern Dad
13-05-2012, 10:28 PM
I'm kind of spoiled. I have the MacPro on the desk, the MacBook Pro, the iPad and iPhone. Yes, I'm an Apple addict.

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catrancher
13-05-2012, 10:36 PM
Yes, I'm an Apple addict.

Join the club! :yes:

There's a whole bunch of us on here that are also.

Tom (:macwave:... since 1984... )

keith
13-05-2012, 10:37 PM
Join the club! :yes:

There's a whole bunch of us on here that are also.

Tom (:macwave:... since 1984... )

yep :D

foreverducky
14-05-2012, 12:28 AM
I have become one. I bought the iMac last year, and I will not own a pc again. I do have an android phone...that is until I can get another upgrade. :D

Wendy
14-05-2012, 06:56 AM
Join the club! :yes:

There's a whole bunch of us on here that are also.

Tom (:macwave:... since 1984... )


yep :D

Nope not me :sigh:

catrancher
14-05-2012, 11:16 AM
Nope not me :sigh:

Ahhh... but there are so many others. For instance:


me
Keith
Josh
Forever Ducky - convert as a result of Secrets
Johnie
Tink
Skywatcher - convert as a result of Secrets
and now Southern Dad
Watchinherskip - update
Lisa1976 - update



I may have missed some. I'm not sure. Those are the ones off the top of my head. If I missed anyone else, I apologize.

So, you see, it's like the ocean waves. Inevitable. Nothing can stand in it's way. :ROFL:

Tom (:macwave:... next... world domination!)

Johnie
14-05-2012, 12:47 PM
I'm a convert due to Secrets. I bought the Mac Pro last year and I, too, will never own a pc again

uscwest
14-05-2012, 01:42 PM
I'm still deeply rooted in PC myself. Mainly though, because I cannot afford a Mac that would meet my needs.

Johnie
14-05-2012, 04:39 PM
They are definitely expensive. John, have you looked at the refurbished ones?

catrancher
14-05-2012, 05:01 PM
They are definitely expensive.

Not necessarily. At least not a lot. If you want a desktop, you can get into a Mac Mini for $599. Add a keyboard, mouse and monitor and you're ready to go. iMac's start at $1199. Notebooks like the Macbook Air or or a Macbook Pro start at $999 and $1199 respectively. Most pc's of equivalent configuration will cost you almost as much.

More expensive that a PC? I don't really think so. At least if you compare apples to apples. Sure, you can get a pc cheaper but you give up capability to do so. At least that's been my experience.

Tom (:macwave:... just sayin'...)

Wendy
14-05-2012, 05:30 PM
I'm still deeply rooted in PC myself. Mainly though, because I cannot afford a Mac that would meet my needs.

:yes: I agree John, when I bought my laptop, Apple didn't have anything anywhere neat as good performance wise. The other huge thing for us is that all the programs we have are for Windows and whilst I know you can buy something to run Windows products on an Apple it just seems a bit defeatist.

I would love a Mac Air but I couldn't afford or justify paying the money for one :shrug:

Chris has offered to get me an ipad so that it will be lighter for me on holiday, but everything is on my laptop and even though I use dropbox for some things, I think I will find an ipad to restrictive and annoying for typing :lol: Keith actually did agree with me on that :lol:

catrancher
14-05-2012, 05:35 PM
I think I will find an ipad to restrictive and annoying for typing :lol: Keith actually did agree with me on that :lol:

As do I. If I were going to do any serious typing on my iPad, I'd need a real keyboard of some sort. :yes:

Tom (:macwave:... but it's still as handy as pockets on a shirt!)

Wendy
14-05-2012, 05:39 PM
Yeah, but as I use my laptop all the time, what would I use an ipad for :unsure:

keith
14-05-2012, 05:41 PM
I think I will find an ipad to restrictive and annoying for typing :lol: Keith actually did agree with me on that :lol:

yeah, having seen how fast you churn things out on that laptop. Of course you could attach a keyboard to the ipad.

but I do agree with everyone, for some people, they could get away with the ipad. My mother hasn't touched her macbook since she got an ipad. For most of us, I think the ipad is GETTING there but not quite there yet in terms of being the only device.

HOWEVER..... price/performance is one of those weird things. I've had toshiba laptops since they were huge and black/white only. Soon as I tried an Apple powerbook(then macbook pro) that was it. I switched.

The feel, the quality the whole experience is in another world. Even if you use windows on it, which I frequently need to do, the hardware is still brilliant.

In my experience they last much longer, you dont feel that upgrade urge etc.

So it's one of those things. Say a dell is 700 and the macbook equivalent is 1000. In my experience, although you'll be happy with the dell for a while, you'll be happier and for longer with the macbook. So over time, it makes up for the initial outlay.

Now, all that is such a total apple fanboy thing to say and I know that's how it sounds too but I really do believe it hand on heart. I'm typing this on a 27" imac (running windows right now). It's a few years old, I guess I should feel like an upgrade but it's absolutely silent in use, fast, reliable, lovely to look at and honestly as close to perfect as I've ever had in a desktop computer.

My final argument :lol: you can, and I do, run windows on apple computers. Sometimes I run it in bootcamp which means I'm just using it completely as a windows computer, no mac osx being used, sometimes I'll boot into macosx and just run any windows apps I need in a window (click on them and it just happens). So with any of my mac stuff I can run mac and/or windows depending on what I feel I want/need. On a pc/laptop from another vendor, I can only run windows (or linux etc.) no apple stuff. For me, that flexibility is useful too and worth a couple of hundred extra on the buy price.

catrancher
14-05-2012, 05:42 PM
what would I use an ipad for :unsure:

I have mine next to my chair in our den. In the evening when we're watching TV, if an email comes in or I need to look something up quickly, it's right there. I don't have to go turn on my main machine or even get out of my chair. Very handy when my DW says "who's that actor". IMDB is right there with the answer.

Tom (:macwave:... great for those kind of things...)

Wendy
14-05-2012, 06:02 PM
I am sad and have no life :lol: I watch TV with my laptop on my lap doing things on here as well :lol: :anxious:

I know what you are saying Keith, I have had to have a new hard drive in my Dell and my battery is shot :lol: On the other hand Chris' Lattitude whilst being slower than mine :D is as good as new - maybe that's something to do with the fact that I use mine more than him.

So that's the other thing I am probably on my Dell, about 7 hours or so a day, surely with that amount of use I'm better spending less money and replacing when I need to :unsure:

josh.p.
14-05-2012, 11:07 PM
So that's the other thing I am probably on my Dell, about 7 hours or so a day, surely with that amount of use I'm better spending less money and replacing when I need to :unsure:
Not necessarily. Before I had my macbook I'd get 'that itch' for a new laptop pretty much every year. There'd be some new processor out, or some new software that I liked to use. That's not even taking into account the times I *had* to replace it because through heavy usage my laptops just didn't last that long :rotfl:. Since having a macbook, whilst I've sort of pined for a Macbook Pro, I've never come close to actually buying it because my macbook does everything I want. I've had my macbook for about 3 years now. I must use it for at least 7 hours a day, too.

For example, right now I have secrets open, Facebook open, and mail open. Alongside that I'm making photos transparent in photoshop and adding them to a leaflet in inDesign.

That is on a dual core machine with 2gb of ram. My Dad's laptop is a windows equivalent however it has 4gb of ram, and it is seriously laggy doing any multi tasking. He has to defrag it often and to boot it is about a year and a half 'younger' than my macbook. The mac operating system is just so light.

Southern Dad
15-05-2012, 09:45 AM
When it comes to computers, you get what you pay for. My daughter has a Power Mac G5 in her room that was purchased in 2003. It still works fine on OS X Leopard. The only changes to it from the time it was purchased is a bigger hard drive.

My daughter's laptop is a MacBook purchased at the end of '06 or early '07. It is running OS X Lion. The only upgrade on this one was additional RAM.

I don't think you'll find too many PC's of those ages still completely usable. My computers are a bit newer because I'm spoiled.

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Watchinherskip
15-05-2012, 04:20 PM
Join the club! :yes:

There's a whole bunch of us on here that are also.

Tom (:macwave:... since 1984... )

Tom, never thought I would be saying it but, my name is Dan and I am an Apple Addict....

Count:
iMac desktop
iTouch
iPad 2
Daughter has MacBookPro
2 Shuffles
3 Nanos

My phone is ancient and I have trouble pulling the trigger for a smart phone....so hanging with my old Razor as long as possible.

catrancher
15-05-2012, 04:50 PM
Tom, never thought I would be saying it but, my name is Dan and I am an Apple Addict....

Ok, updated my previous post (http://wdisneysecrets.com/forums/showthread.php?22349-ipad-questions&p=279497&viewfull=1#post279497) to include Dan!

This is kinda fun! Who else? :unsure:

Tom (:macwave:... step right up...)

Lisa1976
15-05-2012, 05:18 PM
Me, me!! I've a iMac, MacBook, iPhone and iPad - LOVE them all :)

catrancher
15-05-2012, 05:37 PM
Me, me!! I've a iMac, MacBook, iPhone and iPad - LOVE them all :)

And the list (http://wdisneysecrets.com/forums/showthread.php?22349-ipad-questions&p=279497&viewfull=1#post279497) grows! Added Lisa1976. :thumbsup:

Tom (:macwave:... keep 'em coming...)

foreverducky
15-05-2012, 10:09 PM
I think we should have monthly support groups...to discuss new products. :lol:

catrancher
16-05-2012, 03:16 PM
I think we should have monthly support groups...to discuss new products. :lol:

Ohhh... what a funish idea. I modified it a bit and have created an Appleholic thread here (http://wdisneysecrets.com/forums/showthread.php?22400-Apple-Anonymous). :yes:

We can have our support group meetings in that thread if you'd like. Or get questions answered, products reviewed, whatever. If people like it, we'll keep it. If not, we can get rid of it.

It just gives all us Apple fans a place to hang out without annoying the rest of the world too badly. :thumbsup:

Tom (:macwave:... hello. My name is Tom and... well, you get it.)

Johnie
17-05-2012, 01:30 AM
Not necessarily. At least not a lot. If you want a desktop, you can get into a Mac Mini for $599. Add a keyboard, mouse and monitor and you're ready to go. iMac's start at $1199. Notebooks like the Macbook Air or or a Macbook Pro start at $999 and $1199 respectively. Most pc's of equivalent configuration will cost you almost as much.

More expensive that a PC? I don't really think so. At least if you compare apples to apples. Sure, you can get a pc cheaper but you give up capability to do so. At least that's been my experience.

Tom (:macwave:... just sayin'...)

Well I meant in comparison to a PC. I know most people look at computers that are $299 on Black Friday and they think that's a great deal. But if you compare it to the quality of Mac, well you get what you pay for.......

I was a hard sell for Mac myself. I grew up in a PC household. My dad was a computer programmer and we ALWAYS have had a computer in our house (which explains why we never went on vacation!). I always heard PCPCPCPC. But I am a FIRM Mac convert now :yes: