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keith
26-10-2013, 08:09 AM
I've never been to Hawaii but it's one of those places, those who have been seem to have loved it and sigh when they remember how great it was.

I know nothing at all about it, nothing about the islands, which one is good, where to stay, what to do etc.

Really tempted to try it this year though. So, what do I need to know?

Tink
26-10-2013, 01:53 PM
You need to know that Oahu is the main island for visitors and has the most hotel rooms. It is also the island that has Waikiki Beach (you can't go to Hawaii without visiting Waikiki!!) the North Shore for FABULOUS surfing, seacoast and views. Honolulu is a wonderful city with a very beautiful China Town. The bus system in Hawaii is the best in the United States. It's inexpensive, safe, clean and fun. You can take a bus trip around the entire island, hopping on and off as you please.

The food is wonderful, but don't get sucked into one of those stupid fake luaus. If you are going to do one, then do it through the cultural center.

This is the island that really has the most to do for any visitor.

Now, if you want pure peace, and not much else, go to Kauai and hang out with the feral chickens. :D

Maui is nice enough, but again we far preferred the many options available on Oahu. You can also take a tour of Pearl Harbor, too.

The "Big Island" is just that and put me in the mind of needing to visit someone if you really wanted to enjoy this island.

Loved the smaller islands just for the visit, but (all together now) Oahu was the most intriguing, entertaining and accessible for us.

Hope that helps a bit, and YES! You and the Mrs. Keith MUST go!

keith
26-10-2013, 03:11 PM
OOOOO that's excellent info thanks Tink! :yes:

What's the best time of year to visit?

catrancher
26-10-2013, 03:27 PM
Don't forget Aulani ('http://resorts.disney.go.com/aulani-hawaii-resort/').

Never been there but I'd certainly like to go sometime. :yes:

Tom ( :macwave:... Aloha!)

Slowhand
26-10-2013, 04:05 PM
Don't forget Aulani ('http://resorts.disney.go.com/aulani-hawaii-resort/').

Never been there but I'd certainly like to go sometime. :yes:


Doug & Michelle have been there a couple of times Tom and they think that it is fantastic. :thumbsup:

Tink
26-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Any time of year actually, Keith. Hawaii is almost always beautiful. They have bouts of liquid sunshine, but Oahu is a beautiful island with lovely trade winds.

Oh, that is the drawback to Hawaii overall. Many public places to not have a/c as they rely on the tradewinds. The hotels are ok, but some other places (like the airport!) won't have it.

keith
26-10-2013, 06:44 PM
Any time of year actually, Keith. Hawaii is almost always beautiful. They have bouts of liquid sunshine, but Oahu is a beautiful island with lovely trade winds.

Oh, that is the drawback to Hawaii overall. Many public places to not have a/c as they rely on the tradewinds. The hotels are ok, but some other places (like the airport!) won't have it.

WOW to no air con! it'll be like being back in the UK :lol:

So, May/June wouldn't be stupidly horribly hot?

Wendy
26-10-2013, 08:00 PM
Oh where do I start, I fell in love with Hawaii and if anyone ever made me choose between Disney and Hawaii, I'm afraid Disney would lose :sorry:

I'll convince you, I'll copy a dvd we bought and send it up to you, I challenge you not to be impressed :)

We went to Oahu and Tink has already described it so well, the North Shore is a photographer's paradise and the sunsets are amazing. We have some amazing photos and the other thing that I found was that the Hawaiians are the most friendliest people anywhere. They are so happy and helpful and as Tink said we felt completely safe even when we were walking through the market and believe it or not we used the bus transportation as well :lol: We did rent a car for a few days so that we could drive around the island though

We stayed in the Outrigger, Waikiki on the Beach ('http://www.outrigger.com/hotels-resorts/hawaiian-islands/oahu-waikiki/outrigger-waikiki-on-the-beach/rooms-amenities'), Donna and John suggested it. We had a deluxe ocean front room which looked out to the beach and the sea. We would fall asleep with the patio door open listening to the water lapping the shore. I have a picture on my wall of a sunset that Chris took whilst we were sitting on our balcony, I'll look for it and post it.

When (I am not saying if) we go back, I think we would get an internal flight to the main island for a couple of days so that we can see the volcano and a couple of other things.

One thing that you do need to remember though is that Hawaii is expensive, more so than the main land.

We went late September beginning of October and it was hot, but there is no humidity so it's bearable, having said that though I couldn't lie in the sun for anymore than a couple of hours.

Helen would love it Keith and so would you for completely different reasons, Chris never got bored once, it really is a bucket list island.

keith
26-10-2013, 08:10 PM
ok I think I need to see that DVD :D and will start looking at some flights

Wendy
26-10-2013, 08:15 PM
ok I think I need to see that DVD :D and will start looking at some flights

Well, I've been looking around the site for the Outrigger and for the same room we had last time its $499 plus tax a night :thud:

I'll copy the DVD tomorrow and send it up :)

keith
26-10-2013, 08:21 PM
Well, I've been looking around the site for the Outrigger and for the same room we had last time its $499 plus tax a night :thud:

I'll copy the DVD tomorrow and send it up :)

Well I don't mind paying if it's good.. who did you fly with?

Britchick
26-10-2013, 08:26 PM
Funny you say that Keith but I was reading a post yesterday that Wendy was talking about Hawaii. Jon and I plan to have a second honeymoon without kids! for our 25th in 2016 (I can't believe it lol) we plan to do the west coast of Us as we love driving holidays. I think a trip to Hawaii would just make it that extra special for our actual anniversary so I will follow this thread and your plans with interest!

keith
26-10-2013, 08:30 PM
Funny you say that Keith but I was reading a post yesterday that Wendy was talking about Hawaii. Jon and I plan to have a second honeymoon without kids! for our 25th in 2016 (I can't believe it lol) we plan to do the west coast of Us as we love driving holidays. I think a trip to Hawaii would just make it that extra special for our actual anniversary so I will follow this thread and your plans with interest!

funny YOU should say THAT :lol: because the other thing I'd REALLY REALLY like to do is a route 66 trip.

Britchick
26-10-2013, 08:36 PM
Oh I love US road trips, we drove from Vegas to Albuquerque with lots of places in between and also from Charleston to Oklahoma white we were over there.
I love the planning of the places to visit. It doesn't have to cost a fortune either, I'm happy in a hampton inn and a couple of special places. You should really do it Keith! life is too short! You could always stop off at Orlando on the way back

Wendy
26-10-2013, 08:43 PM
Funny you say that Keith but I was reading a post yesterday that Wendy was talking about Hawaii. Jon and I plan to have a second honeymoon without kids! for our 25th in 2016 (I can't believe it lol) we plan to do the west coast of Us as we love driving holidays. I think a trip to Hawaii would just make it that extra special for our actual anniversary so I will follow this thread and your plans with interest!


I'll send you the DVD as well. Julie, Hawaii is the perfect place and you can re-new your vows on the beach, it is really romantic :yes:

Britchick
26-10-2013, 08:53 PM
I'll send you the DVD as well. Julie, Hawaii is the perfect place and you can re-new your vows on the beach, it is really romantic :yes:

Thank you Wendy, not sure we're going to renew our vows. Jon will do it if I want but he says he doesn't need to renew as we haven't broken them lol. Not sure I want to do it if his heart isn't in it if you see what I mean. He is however swaying to the idea of DVC membership when I'm back in gainful employment so I can't complain ;)

Wendy
26-10-2013, 09:02 PM
Oh well done you on talking him round to a DVC :D

Britchick
26-10-2013, 09:04 PM
Oh well done you on talking him round to a DVC :D

:lol:

catrancher
26-10-2013, 09:26 PM
route 66 trip.

For your entertainment. To help put you in the mood! :drive:


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Tom ( :macwave:... hope you like a capella jazz!)

uscwest
27-10-2013, 12:07 AM
Donna and I used to make frequent business trips to Hawaii. We used to get a fantastic rate at the Outrigger Waikiki on the Beach because we were government employees. In 1995 I had to make a business trip over and Donna came with me on vacation. We got married at Pua Melia Plantation in Waimanalo. On one of the trips we took a weekend trip over to the Big Island (Hawaii). We rented a car and we were able to drive all over the island, seeing the beautiful waterfalls as well as the "desert" area of Kona. We even got to go to Volcanoes National Park and were able to watch lava flow into the ocean. We've never been to the other islands but would love to go to Maui (where our niece who got married in WDW a couple of years ago and her husband live).

Tink
27-10-2013, 01:23 AM
I totally forgot something. The sun in Hawaii is HOT. :eek: I burned myself quite badly and yes, I was wearing a very strong and protective sunscreen. There is a different type in Hawaii, I think it has titanium in it. (REally!) So get your sunscreen there.

The volcano would be wonderful to see. You can take a 'chopper tour and view it from the sky. :yes:

In addition to being more expensive, I found the "hands out for a tip" to be a little overwhelming. It seems everyone had a hand out. And we all know what I think of THAT! :D

We too stayed at the Outrigger on Waikiki. :yes: There is another hotel further along (toward Diamond Head). It has an Asian name and we said if we ever returned we'd stay there. I'll rack my brain and try to remember.

$500 a night for Outrigger is not worth it. Honest. It's a very nice place, clean and well served, but it's not a fancy hotel at all. For $500 a night, I'd be disappointed. :sorry:

I'll go look for that other hotel.

Tink
27-10-2013, 01:29 AM
http://www.halekulani.com/style/overview/
I'm about as sure as I can be this is it. It's not an Asian name, after all, but it has an Asian feel to the hotel.

keith
27-10-2013, 05:20 AM
http://www.halekulani.com/style/overview/
I'm about as sure as I can be this is it. It's not an Asian name, after all, but it has an Asian feel to the hotel.

oh that does look beautiful thanks Tink!!

keith
27-10-2013, 05:21 AM
Donna and I used to make frequent business trips to Hawaii. We used to get a fantastic rate at the Outrigger Waikiki on the Beach because we were government employees. In 1995 I had to make a business trip over and Donna came with me on vacation. We got married at Pua Melia Plantation in Waimanalo. On one of the trips we took a weekend trip over to the Big Island (Hawaii). We rented a car and we were able to drive all over the island, seeing the beautiful waterfalls as well as the "desert" area of Kona. We even got to go to Volcanoes National Park and were able to watch lava flow into the ocean. We've never been to the other islands but would love to go to Maui (where our niece who got married in WDW a couple of years ago and her husband live).

How fantastic that sounds. I'm yet to hear anyone say a bad word about Hawaii!

Tink
27-10-2013, 08:06 AM
Did you see that one of their specialty suites was designed by Vera Wang? It's quite an expensive hotel. I'm sorry about that. I knew it was beautiful, but didn't realize the least expensive accommodation was close to $600 per night. Would be nice for a few days stay though! Maybe toward the end of the holiday so you are pampered and leave in true style?

Wendy
27-10-2013, 09:28 AM
Well I know where I will be staying when we go back :lol:

keith
27-10-2013, 09:38 AM
Apparently Steve Jobs absolutely loved Kona and went there every year for the peace

Britchick
27-10-2013, 05:42 PM
i don't mind paying that for 2/3 nights, would make up for it by booking everything myself and staying at hampton inns on other nights.


found this from $250 a night
http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/hotels/hawaii/grand-wailea-a-waldorf-astoria-resort-JHMGWWA/index.html

keith
27-10-2013, 06:21 PM
i don't mind paying that for 2/3 nights, would make up for it by booking everything myself and staying at hampton inns on other nights.


found this from $250 a night
http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/hotels/hawaii/grand-wailea-a-waldorf-astoria-resort-JHMGWWA/index.html

yeah I agree, I mean in fairness, the hilton doesnt exactly look like a slum :lol:

Britchick
27-10-2013, 06:22 PM
yeah I agree, I mean in fairness, the hilton doesnt exactly look like a slum :lol:

that's because it's a waldorf historia

keith
27-10-2013, 06:24 PM
that's because it's a waldorf historia

yeah! certainly no problem staying there

Britchick
27-10-2013, 06:25 PM
Astoria...not historia ....:lol:

Tink
28-10-2013, 03:55 PM
You need to decide what you most want on Holiday. Do you want the glorious beauty and peace that Hawaii can be? Or, do you want the ability to move between peace and "action?"

The strip of resorts along Waikiki are all very nice, with some being more luxurious than others. :yes: The Outrigger where we stayed was right on the beach, and we had a room facing the beach with a balcony. With a simple turn of the head to the left, you could see Diamond Head. Beautiful.

uscwest
28-10-2013, 04:33 PM
Hawaii has apparently gotten ridiculously expensive since we used to go over. We didn't pay anywhere near $500/night.

BTW there are several Outriggers in Hawaii. There is another just down the street from the Outrigger Waikiki on the Beach. It is called the Outrigger Reef. The beach isn't as lovely as the other one but the beaches are wide open and for the most part not restricted like the pools at WDW so could always go to the Outrigger Waikiki to use the beach. I also don't remember them asking for room keys to use the pools. The Pool at the Outrigger Waikiki used to have an underground bar with a window that let you see right into the pool.

Watchinherskip
28-10-2013, 04:51 PM
We were fortunate to go there way back in 1986 or was it 87? Anyhow we stayed in Waikiki at a Dept of Defence hotel Hale Koa (House of the Warrior). We had to work a bit of a scam. SIL's hubby had to take temp active duty, his brother was stationed at Hickam AFB and got another room. It was fantastic. We were right next to Don Ho's Sheraton (think it was a Sheraton) and Ft. Derussy. Now at this time Magnum PI was still being filmed there. We went to mass on Saturday evening (right on the beach!) and when we turned around we saw a big crowd heading over to the beach. Tom Selleck and the guy who played TC on the show were playing beach volleyball. Found out it was a standing game each Saturday night.

We were there in the summer, but I would say that the big difference between summer and winter, is wind direction. Always in the trades, but the wind direction changed so that if you go in the summer expecting to see the Bonzai Pipeline, you will be dissapointed. North Shore is flat as a pancake then. The SE shore is the place to be! Let us just say that this howli tried attempted his first Hawaiian body surf and got totally wiped out (never even touched bottom!). Little Hawaiian kids had to lead me back to my towel in my utter shame! Too funny.

A couple of things to note or try:

The guava juice there is AWESOME!
Kona coffee is AWESOME
Great place to get Lai!
Hunauma Bay is wonderful to see giant fish and turtles (used to be able to feed them frozen peas - giant jacks would school behind you to catch the loose ones) Nice to have a waterproof camera!
Got to go to the cultural center!
If you take a boat tour or go fishing...you will be astonished to see swimmers and surfers on the beach and be in 100 fathoms of water. Gets deep really fast.
Tried the shave ice!
Walk to a waterfall - and SWIM http://hawaiitrails.ehawaii.gov/trail.php?TrailID=OA 19 007
If you can, (not sure since 9/11) go to the old Bellow's AFB region. Beautiful beach. Rustic setting.
Check out the China Man's Hat geloogic feature.
Pearl Harbor Tour...a must. Felt overwhelmed at the Arizona...always beautiful lai floating on the blue water with diesel still leaking over the water tombs of those sailors.
Remember it is an island everthing is either monoa (beach) or mauka (towards the mountains)
Poi is over rated...bluh (like that is possible)
Check the sunset for the "green flash"
Avoid going there on Founder's Week! Hard to get flights anywhere (guess when we went?) It is around August 21.

It was an amazing week we spent there. I would love to return but this time I think I would like to go to the big island. As a geologist and planetarium dude how could I miss the observatories and the volcanoes? BW...we stayed at the Hale Koa, ran up a bar tab, ate all of our breakfasts there as well as a few lunches and one dinner and our bill for everything was under $300!!!!!! We saved the bill in our photo book of the trip. That was a once in a lifetime deal.

Mahalo

Watchinherskip
28-10-2013, 04:55 PM
16251 Oh yeah one more thing......huma huma nuka nuka apua!