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Dawn
26-09-2008, 08:31 AM
OK I'm staring at this job application form. The position is for Teaching Assistant. The school is a 250 place secondary school for children with learning difficulties and complex needs. 11 - 16 year olds. I can do this job, I know I can. I don't have the standard NVQ they tend to look for in these jobs. I have some experience as a parent helper in Steven's school - that's with a younger age group. I've coached rugby to older children.

How can I sell myself to this school?

Skywatcher
26-09-2008, 08:48 AM
certainly mention dealing with difficult patients in your job with eth OOH service

Dawn
26-09-2008, 08:59 AM
Good one. We have lots of those. I'm quite adept with a wheelchair.

Dawn
26-09-2008, 10:33 AM
This is very hard. :unsure:

I've been reading up on the school and they are introducing a horticulture course. If I put on the form that one of my hobbies is gardening and then directly mention that course - is that too obvious and crass, or would they like the fact that I've read up a bit?

Skywatcher
26-09-2008, 10:35 AM
nope - obvious is good :D

mumof2
26-09-2008, 11:13 AM
which school is that Dawn, just out of interest?

oh ok, just because I'm nosey! :yes:

obvious should be good ~ you've had lots of experience dealing (possibly not the right word?) with people, you don't have the qualification but you're more than keen to work towards it, you grow you're own veg.....can't think why you shouldn't get it really! :hug2:

Dawn
26-09-2008, 11:43 AM
Oak Grove in Durrington

MystikPiglit
26-09-2008, 11:59 AM
or would they like the fact that I've read up a bit?

They would like it. Don't forget to say why you would like to work there. :)

mumof2
26-09-2008, 12:27 PM
Oak Grove in Durrington

aha....:D

Dawn
26-09-2008, 12:30 PM
Is that good or bad?

mumof2
26-09-2008, 12:36 PM
Is that good or bad?


oh no, I just meant I thought it must be that one! :lol: As far as I'm aware it's a pretty good place - better than when it was over the road i think.....

Taja
26-09-2008, 02:29 PM
You're accustomed to dealing fairly and tactfully with people of all abilities because of your employment at the surgery.

Rugby coaching of the same age group--shows interest and ability to work with that age group.

Gardening is good--particularly with the potential horticultural programme.

What other interests or experience do you have that could apply to the position? Personality? :slap: You know what I mean! How does it relate to the position? :lol:

What about your university degree? How could it apply to the position--or potentially apply to it?

Dawn
26-09-2008, 02:33 PM
American History....

But most of the coursework was research based so self-motivation was a bit part of that. :D

Taja
26-09-2008, 02:43 PM
I thought I remembered it was in American History, but couldn't quite remember if that was your major or a serious interest! :rolleyes:

Okay, self-motivation would be a good selling point.

What about geo-caching? How could that relate to teaching those with learning difficulties? Alternative teaching methods are crucial--some children are more visual and don't learn easily through traditional methods. And dyslexia is pretty common these days--probably always has been, it's just diagnosed correctly more frequently these days! Again, alternative teaching/learning methods are needed.

Since it's a teaching assistant position, mention you work well as part of a team under general direction. Or something to that effect.

Be sure to include computer skills, including generally used software such as Word, Excel, etc. Even if they aren't used for teaching, they probably are for preparing lessons and reporting progress.

Dawn
26-09-2008, 02:49 PM
Got the IT skills in. Got the being part of a team thing. Got the helping at Steven's school. Got used to working in sensitive situations. Got not afraid to try anything once (except bungee jumping). I think I've covered all the competencies they are looking for. I've got a couple of things in that show I've actually read the stuff they sent me.

Got my referees lined up.

Won't mention that all photocopiers hate me though. :sigh;

Tink
26-09-2008, 02:54 PM
Given what you do in your current daily life, you are detail oriented, problem solver, environmentally aware and dedicated to conserving the earth's resources, have a quick and ready sense of humour which is very necessary when working with children (particularly in sports oriented settings) are not afraid to do what it takes to get the job done...

Your degree is documentation that you have the ability to learn, and apply that learning to everyday life.

My one concern is the qualification that you say you need and don't have. Is that qualification something that can be filled by experience and ability rather than a piece of paper? I mean, for example here if you work for Hospice (in most service delivery roles) you must have a master's degree in an applicable discipline. It's a matter of Medicare regulation and regardless of how good someone is, they won't be hired without that degree.

Is that the case there? Is the school required by a higher authority to hire someone with those qualifications?

If not, you could propose that you will seek those qualifications, and be willing to work for a bit less than the going rate (for someone who is qualified) just to get your foot in the door.

Depends on how much you want (not need, mind) the job.

BevW
26-09-2008, 02:56 PM
Also remember that dreaded question at the end of the interview "What can you bring with you to this position?" I hate that question.

Tink
26-09-2008, 02:57 PM
Oh, forgot an important one. You have excellent communication skills both written and verbal. Then be sure that is the case when you send them the written application. No errors (not that you make them anyway) of any sort, and any hand writing needs to be perfectly clear and legible (your's is).

I've done interviews for years (once upon a time it was my main work position) and seen some of the worst applications you can imagine. One that comes through clean, that shows the candidate took the time to understand the position, tailor her/his skills to the position with clear explanation and examples of what the person can DO, with no spelling errors, no grammar errors, no punctuation errors-those shoot straight to the top of the pile. You'd be horrified at the condition of most applications.

Mostly, have faith in yourself, and know that we do to. :yes: :hug1:

Tink
26-09-2008, 03:00 PM
I don't hate that question. That is your opportunity to tell them that you have so many skills to bring that you can't begin to quantify them all (but be sure to have several that you can). It's your chance to tell them that all the positions you've had in the past have provided you with so many skills that you've come to take them for granted.

I once was hired for a position I coveted because I said to the interviewer (within the context of this question) "I'm a damn good value." :lol:

Oh, don't forget to explain your organizational skills and punctuality. Not only is a workplace looking for someone who has the skills to do the job, but they are assessing your work ethic as well.

Try to understand (find out?) the culture of the work place there and throw in a few examples of how you will fit in seamlessly. :yes:

Taja
26-09-2008, 03:05 PM
Got the IT skills in. Got the being part of a team thing. Got the helping at Steven's school. Got used to working in sensitive situations. Got not afraid to try anything once (except bungee jumping). I think I've covered all the competencies they are looking for. I've got a couple of things in that show I've actually read the stuff they sent me.

Got my referees lined up.

Won't mention that all photocopiers hate me though. :sigh;

Not mention the photocopier thing is good! :lol:

And I think Tink just about sold you with her posts! :D

Tink
26-09-2008, 03:11 PM
Oh, I can break a photocopier simply by walking into a room four doors down. :sigh; I'm serious. I hate the stinking things, but don't give that bit of info up. Only and forever talk about yourself in positive terms.

And be ready to answer this stupid question, "What is/are your greatest weakness (es)?" That is a trick question and you'd better be able to come up with a believable response that is superficially a weakness while being a true strength.

josh.p.
26-09-2008, 03:35 PM
sorry, can't help here, thought this was a TOTALLY different thread,
damn, just when I thought I could be of help...

Tink
26-09-2008, 03:41 PM
JOSH!!!!!!

ON THE STEP YOUNG MAN!!! :eek:

:laugh:

Dawn
26-09-2008, 03:54 PM
My one concern is the qualification that you say you need and don't have. Is that qualification something that can be filled by experience and ability rather than a piece of paper? I mean, for example here if you work for Hospice (in most service delivery roles) you must have a master's degree in an applicable discipline. It's a matter of Medicare regulation and regardless of how good someone is, they won't be hired without that degree.

Is that the case there? Is the school required by a higher authority to hire someone with those qualifications?

It's a vocational award for teaching assistants. It's not a mandatory requirement for the job. I have 6 credits towards it BUT there are a lot of people out there who have completed the course. Of course I'm willing to do the training. And any other training.

I think I'm set. I've written one side of A4 demonstrating skills and competencies. I think that's enough. Any more and it will just turn to waffle. I may give the school a call next week and see if I can visit to look around and hand deliver the application.

Dawn
26-09-2008, 03:56 PM
OMG Josh, please tell me next time I put an inappropriate thread title up there.:eek:

How come Dr Chris has kept quiet about this? :unsure:

Tink
26-09-2008, 04:06 PM
Don't you worry one bit about it! :hug2: It's not inappropriate at all. :hug2:

Misunderstandable, maybe- but not inappropriate. :D :D Heeeheeeheee!

Dizneyblonde
26-09-2008, 04:32 PM
Don't forget to mention you have a great personality and are a great friend :hug2:

josh.p.
26-09-2008, 04:39 PM
Don't forget to mention you have a great personality and are a grea friend :hug2:
Seconded! definatley mention that :yes:

josh.p.
26-09-2008, 04:40 PM
OMG Josh, please tell me next time I put an inappropriate thread title up there.:eek:

How come Dr Chris has kept quiet about this? :unsure:
Awww... but its much more fun to mock you! :gy:

JOSH!!!!!!

ON THE STEP YOUNG MAN!!! :eek:

:laugh:
:evil:

Disneybumble
26-09-2008, 04:48 PM
Josh have you been drinking young man. Some of your posts.;)

Tink
26-09-2008, 04:49 PM
Isn't he a rare one, our Josh? :yes: But he's all ours and we aren't sharing! :D

Disneybumble
26-09-2008, 04:51 PM
Isn't he a rare one, our Josh? :yes: But he's all ours and we aren't sharing! :D

Very true.:yes:

Dawn
26-09-2008, 04:55 PM
Should I tell the school I'm a muse? :lol:

Tink
26-09-2008, 04:56 PM
Oh yes! By all means! That is a VERY rare quality. :yes: :D

josh.p.
26-09-2008, 05:23 PM
Josh have you been drinking young man. Some of your posts.;)
LOL, only smoothies!!


Isn't he a rare one, our Josh? :yes: But he's all ours and we aren't sharing! :D
*blush*

Taja
26-09-2008, 11:40 PM
Hope you'll let us know how it goes, Dawn. :)