View Full Version : Bit of a trippette

18-02-2009, 08:46 AM
Half term this week and Adrian had Monday and Tuesday off work so we went to stay with Nanny Lesley and Grandad Fred.

On Monday Mummy and Daddy took Steven to the Royal Observatory in Greenwich. Nanny Lesley tagged along too. Train from Staines to Waterloo and then Waterloo East to Greenwich, then a short walk to Greenwich park.

Incidentally the ticket office people will get you the cheapest deal. A one day Travelcard from Staines is 13.90 for an adult but the man said if Steven would be an adult for the day the 4 of us would count as a group and we'd go for 6.95 each. Steven said he didn't want to be a grown up all day but agreed to be one just for the station ticket machines :thumbsup:

Anyway the Observatory is in the middle of Greenwich park - up a hill. Yes it is as steep as it looks.


Entry is free and the first thing you have to do is stand on the Prime Meridian with one foot in each of the east and west hemispheres. :D


Incidentally the gps reading I took :geekon: read 000.00.091. Anyone know why it doesn't read 000.00.000 ? I know. Do you? Do you even care? :lol:

Some views of London from the Observatory.

Greenwich power station and the old Dome/O2 arena thing.


National Maritime Museum with Docklands behind it.


Gherkin thingy.


Dome of St Pauls. Look very carefully and you can see Tower Bridge too.


Looked round all the time/clock bits before moving over to the astronomy area. You can't take photos inside but this is the Planetarium where we paid 6 each to watch an awesome film about stars.


Then it was lunchtime. We bought a picnic and the weather was nice enough for us to sit outside. I spotted a couple of onlookers in a nearby tree.



18-02-2009, 08:54 AM
Copious amounts of money was spent by all in the excellent gift shop before Steven got his wish for a turn on the talking telescope.


We spent a good few hours at the Observatory and it is well worth it if you're interested in that kind of stuff. It is up a hill but there is a lift available if needed. And it's set in a lovely park that was full of people and their children/dogs enjoying the fine half-term weather.

We found a sossidge wagon!!! In the park. A wagon selling posh sossidge. Only Adrian and Steven were hungry though.


Had a bit of a stroll through the park after that. This is the view back up to the Observatory.


As we were in no rush to get home we headed here.


Where Steven insisted on sitting on both.



The museum is free entry again - like all London museums.

And it was absolutely heaving full with groups of Mexican teenagers. :lol: All ignoring the "no photography" signs. :nono: I was wondering whether Mexico City was full of British teenagers doing the same. They weren't even looking at anything - just walking round photographing everything. I could have sat an watched them for hours. :lol:

Anyway there's a little area in there full of buttons to press and stuff and you could take photos in there.





Then it was time to head back to the station and fight through the rush hour commuters to get home and tell Grandad all about it.


18-02-2009, 08:58 AM
You turned down the chance of a sossidge???????

18-02-2009, 09:03 AM
Tuesday morning we took the dogs out. Went to Virginia Water where there's a lovely parkland/woodland/lake area. It's part of Windsor Great Park which is a royal park so it's referred to as Posh Park.

Pictures of mad dogs and boy.











18-02-2009, 10:29 AM
I love the picture of steven concentrating with his tongue out.
Question Dawn our your parents dogs closely related ie siblings,parents or our they a bit more removed ie aunts,cousins. Just was wondering did they have 3 puppies at once.

18-02-2009, 10:34 AM
They're all sisters. :eek:

18-02-2009, 11:07 AM
They're all sisters. :eek:

:eek: Knowing what Archie and his sister are like when they are together I can't even imagine 3 of them at once!

Great photos Dawn :thumbsup:

18-02-2009, 11:48 AM
I was going to comment on Steven's 'tongue of concentration' too!!!

Jack still does it now :lol:

18-02-2009, 12:22 PM

18-02-2009, 12:28 PM
I always so enjoy your trip reports with photos. :yes: I feel as though I'm truly experiencing wherever it is you are visiting! :yes:

Thank you! :hug1:

18-02-2009, 01:38 PM
I love the picture of steven concentrating with his tongue out.

hehehe me too. Of course, I do it as well :yes:

Great pictures! Looks like a fun time was had by all!

18-02-2009, 02:14 PM
I'm still trying to deal with much the boy has grown :sigh:

The pictures are wonderful Dawn :thumbsup:

18-02-2009, 02:34 PM
Ooooooh! Thanks for sharing your mini-holiday with us!

As much as I love the desert, sometimes I wish for a bit more green in our landscape! :)

18-02-2009, 03:59 PM
Some great photos there, Dawn. Steven is growing up so fast :)

18-02-2009, 08:26 PM

I have to check this thread at home, since I cant see the pics at work..

But I loved the "deal" you got on your tickets!

19-02-2009, 01:17 AM
Great photos Dawn. Really brought back memories of June 2007 when we were in London. Yes I will agree with you that Observatory Hill is extremely steep. And yes we stood on the Prime Meridian. Do tell why the GPS reading? Is it because you weren't dead center?

19-02-2009, 07:07 AM
It's because the Earth's crust is not static and has moved since the meridian was set.

19-02-2009, 12:43 PM
It's because the Earth's crust is not static and has moved since the meridian was set.

Exactly what I was going to say :brightidea::wink2:

This site is so educational :)

20-02-2009, 02:53 AM
lovely pics!

Steven is so cute!

I loved the dog pics!

When did you get so many dogs? werent you a guinea pig person????

20-02-2009, 07:27 AM
Only the small cocker spaniel is mine. The other 3 lunatics are my parents' dogs.

Don't ask about the guinea pigs. :sigh:

20-02-2009, 07:58 AM
Only the small cocker spaniel is mine. The other 3 lunatics are my parents' dogs.

Don't ask about the guinea pigs. :sigh:


22-02-2009, 05:37 PM
wicked pics Dawn, i love that park!

and that's another idea for one of our day trips to London, thank you! :thumbsup:

22-02-2009, 06:44 PM
It's because the Earth's crust is not static and has moved since the meridian was set.

hmmmmm yah know, that wasn't what I was told by some folks who were designing GPS software for some satellites here and there ;)

I was told that the WGS84 (World Geodetic System 1984) coordinate system was a bit of a hack and a hot political potato. All of a sudden, everyone wanted their hundreds or years old meridian lines recognised and because they were so inaccurate, things just didn't line up. Added to that, the GPS system needed a model of the earth including its centre of mass. For, relative, ease they used a simpler mathematic formula that would really have been necessary... all of which resulted in a gps 000 about 300odd feet out from the actual marked line.

My memory is hazy but I THINK they said the UK moved with respect to the WGS84 coordinate system at a rate of about 2.5 centimetres per year.... which would mean that the crust movement explanation wouldn't account for the line being off by that much.

disclaimer: All the above is potentially utter tosh because although it was very interesting at the time, many bottles of wine have passed my lips since then and many brain cells killed :lol:

22-02-2009, 06:48 PM

My explanation is better. And I understand it. :lol:

22-02-2009, 06:49 PM

My explanation is better. And I understand it. :lol:

yeah ok I agree, me too :lol:

22-02-2009, 06:50 PM
Can you tell if your GPS receiver uses WGS84 or ETRS89 ?

22-02-2009, 06:51 PM
See now you're talking a foreign language. :lol:

I know that the meridian line is a virtual cache so another one is ticked off my list.

22-02-2009, 06:53 PM

22-03-2009, 06:31 PM
Great stuff :D Sorry I missed this bit!! Great pics, too, I love nanny leslies mad dogs, Willow is gorgeous too :thumbsup:

22-03-2009, 09:51 PM
God Keef is sooooo sexy when he talks like that... sits with face in cupped hands and elbows on table with feet swinging and smiling happily at my hero....

By the way... Disney are making a film soon about hero guinea pigs that save the world... or summat like that. Dawn will like that one.