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ieuanr
20-05-2009, 09:39 AM
Why can't they make the iphone battery last more than one day.

Bought the iphone 3g to use for email - hey I'm a sucker for a pretty boxes.

I've had it for about six months - it has sat in it's cradle for most of the time.

Had cause to take it on the road yesterday (to listen to Microsoft tell me how great Windows 7 is gonna be!)

Anyway the useless lump of plastic was telling me the battery was about to run out - after about 18 hours on standby and ten minutes of calls.

Searching on the internet it appears this is the same for everyone. Not really a very useful business product - what a poor show. Looks great - works for a day then it's useless. :thumbsdown:

lozzy
20-05-2009, 09:50 AM
Why can't they make the iphone battery last more than one day.

Bought the iphone 3g to use for email - hey I'm a sucker for a pretty boxes.

I've had it for about six months - it has sat in it's cradle for most of the time.

Had cause to take it on the road yesterday (to listen to Microsoft tell me how great Windows 7 is gonna be!)

Anyway the useless lump of plastic was telling me the battery was about to run out - after about 18 hours on standby and ten minutes of calls.

Searching on the internet it appears this is the same for everyone. Not really a very useful business product - what a poor show. Looks great - works for a day then it's useless. :thumbsdown:

I'm so glad I'm not the only person who is sick to the back teeth with having to keep charging my IPhone. I do use it a lot to check my emails but apart from that I will use it for the odd call and text message. I also read on a forums about the poor battery life.

ukwdwnut
20-05-2009, 10:13 AM
i was looking at one when my contract runs out, doubt i'll bother now tbh....thats a rubbish battery life

lozzy
20-05-2009, 10:27 AM
Don't get me wrong the phone is great but if you use it for what it is meant for which is emails, internet etc then the battery isn't great. Also if you use it as an Ipod then the battery wont last long. I think that is one of the reasons it came with a USB charger so people can charge it at work on their computers etc.

ukwdwnut
20-05-2009, 10:32 AM
pretty useless piece of kit then

keith
20-05-2009, 10:33 AM
Well far be it for me to defend Apple, but here goes anyway :D

The useless lump of plastic is being used by millions of people worldwide in all sorts of roles. I've had one since the day they came out, my wife has had hers for the same amount of time. Best phones we've ever used and looking around the Internet, THAT appears the same for everyone :)

Not a useful business product? oh I have to take issue my friend :) I have it checking 4 IMAP email accounts, it has full sync to my company's exchange server. It has everything synced up to really useful email, calendar, contacts apps not like the rubbish you normally see on phones.

The web browser actually works like your desktop one. It's actually usable and indeed I use it all the time for personal stuff and sometimes in the heat of something going wrong at work and needing to fix it remotely. It's saved my life on numerous occasions.

It seemlessly connects to various wifi stations whenever it can and then back to GPRS/3g if not. It has probably the world's best portable song device, the ipod, built in as a little extra.

It has the appstore. If there's an easier way of getting an app for any occasion onto your phone, I haven't seen it.

Battery life. The 2G first model was best and when introduced they said that with everything on there, having a 3G chip would decrease the battery life considerably. Everyone including me said we dont care, we want it. Without doing anything to save power, I reckon mine will last 1.5 to 2 days which is .5 to 1 day longer than I need. I recharge mine overnight each night as I've always done with any phone I've ever had. As long as it lasts one day, it's not even a minor niggle for me.

Now this years iphone update will probably utilise technology that wasn't around a year or so ago to put an even better battery in the thing. Won't matter to me but I guess it'll make it look better on paper.


I have a box here with 40+ phones in and another at work with around twice as many. We test everything that comes along with our services and everyone in the office now has an iphone. Believe me, that says something ;) I was a total windows mobile fan before the iphone came along.

The world's all about choice however and if charging the phone when you go to sleep at night feels like too much of a chore then the iphone may not be for you it's true :yes:

disneymom
20-05-2009, 11:11 AM
I charge mine every night as well so didnt even realise it had poor battery life :unsure:

ieuanr
20-05-2009, 11:20 AM
Hi Keith!

Sorry but I don't think 24 hours battery life is acceptable - if I was on the road 2-3 days a week I would have to charge it every day - which means taking a charger. I know that charging it every day is not the end of the world - but other 3g phones manage 3-4 days of use easily.

It is easy to use but the battery life is a major issue - form over function anyone?

keith
20-05-2009, 11:24 AM
Hi Keith!

:wave:


Sorry but I don't think 24 hours battery life is acceptable - if I was on the road 2-3 days a week I would have to charge it every day - which means taking a charger. I know that charging it every day is not the end of the world - but other 3g phones manage 3-4 days of use easily.

It is easy to use but the battery life is a major issue - form over function anyone?

Well hey, everyone has their own needs don't they :) other 3g phones don't have the same level of functionality as the iphone which makes THEM unacceptable to me by comparison.

2-3 days on the road, I'd imagine you'd take along a car charger?

There's really no way anyone could level a form over function argument against the most functional phone out there today in my very humble opinion :)

but yep, doesn't sound like it's the phone for you. Get it on ebay and you can go grab something that you like better!

ieuanr
20-05-2009, 12:07 PM
Therein lies a problem - I don't like anything else better - other phones have a useful battery life though.

keith
20-05-2009, 12:13 PM
Therein lies a problem - I don't like anything else better - other phones have a useful battery life though.

Well I know I'm sounding argumentative now :( and I don't mean to be, but it HAS got a useful battery life :/ it's not like it's 10 seconds and then it dies. If you really like how it works but hate the battery life, use a car charger, leave it in the cradle at work etc.

catrancher
20-05-2009, 12:22 PM
I've got to agree with Keith here. :yes:

Granted, mines an original iPhone without 3G but I've never had a problem with battery life. I charge mine on the nightstand every night (makes a nice little alarm clock). If I'm going out of town, I take the charger with me and charge it either in the car or the hotel.

Now my DW's 3G model is a little different. 3G usage does impact battery life. However, what we do with that is we generally turn 3G off unless we're looking for something specific that requires faster internet access. My DW's ebay auctions for example. :mental:
Turn 3G on, do what we need to do, then turn 3G off again. It's a compromise that we're willing to make to get all the additional functionality that the iPhone has to offer.

Tom (:macwave:... I'd still rather have one iPhone than two of anything else!)

josh.p.
20-05-2009, 12:57 PM
My 2g lasts me about a day, i use edge, wifi, ipod and usually take 1-2 pics, too. I think 24hrs is quite a good battery life, granted if you are away from home it can be an annoyance but its not really hard to take a charger with you?

keith
20-05-2009, 01:02 PM
It'll be interesting to see how this years update goes!

Im pretty sure they'll want a more speedy processor and longer life but the two are pretty incompatible. Should be an interesting June!

Skywatcher
20-05-2009, 01:06 PM
Mine lasts longer now I know how to turn it of :lol: took me a couple of months to realise I was just putting iti in stanby and not 'off'

depends like all things on how much you use it and it will obvioulsy eat batteries as it does so much,

I never ever thought I would use it as much as I do

It is the best biut of technology I have ever bought and it has converted me singlehandedly into being a Mac convert

I have a charger in the car one at home and a USB one to plug it into the PC if it needs doing at work

If I hardly use it then it doesn't need charging - my last LG phone was total garbage and I only texted with that really and I astill had to charge taht every 2 days.

I think a 'short ' battery life was to be expected for the level of functionality - and the functionality far exceeds that of my laptop!

lozzy
20-05-2009, 01:11 PM
I think it is the best phone I have ever had and it will take a lot to impress me as much as the IPhone has.
I never turn my phone off it is on 24/7 as I do use it as a alarm clock. I will have to think about getting an in car charger.
If you think about the amount I use the IPhone to how much I would use my other phone it is understandable that the battery will un down quicker.

keith
20-05-2009, 01:17 PM
I text an awful lot, really really do and over the years I've had the iphone I've on occasions thought it's too big, doesnt have a real keyboard etc. So I've tried to swap to one of the hundreds of phones around work. Lucky to have the choice I know!

I USED to like windows mobile but once you've tried the iphone, there's no way to go back to that.

Anyway, I usually don't last a day before I'm back with the iphone :yes:

I really do hope that someone comes out with something competitive though just to keep Apple on their toes!

lozzy
20-05-2009, 01:22 PM
I text an awful lot, really really do and over the years I've had the iphone I've on occasions thought it's too big, doesnt have a real keyboard etc. So I've tried to swap to one of the hundreds of phones around work. Lucky to have the choice I know!

I USED to like windows mobile but once you've tried the iphone, there's no way to go back to that.

Anyway, I usually don't last a day before I'm back with the iphone :yes:

I really do hope that someone comes out with something competitive though just to keep Apple on their toes!

This new update what will it add to the IPhone?

keith
20-05-2009, 01:29 PM
This new update what will it add to the IPhone?

Right, there's almost certainly a new phone coming out. Rumour has it it'll add a better camera, video, MAYBE a slight redesign, faster and better battery life. MAYBE.

Alongside that there'll be iphone os 3.0 which updates all the iphones including the iphone 2g one. Various things, MMS finally, voice memo, proper phone wide spotlight search etc. (some of these will only be on the 3G phone though such as MMS I think).

There are a lot of little fixes though. Little things like when I have multiple numbers for someone "Helen home Helen work" for example, if I missed a call it said "missed call from Helen" but didnt tell me which number. Now it does.

Cut and paste has been added in quite a nice way as well! very useful that one

There's also the big thing about background notifications which are a way to let an application tell you that something new has happened like a new facebook update or a new instant message. It's a new special way of allowing apps to receive new updates without sitting in the background using battery life.

In fact a lot of the features are new things for developers which may not sound too exciting but which should launch a load of really great new apps following the release.

Skywatcher
20-05-2009, 01:30 PM
if you go to the apple website and its on the front page I think OS 3.0 if I remember :unsure: will allow picture texting that kinda think

keith
20-05-2009, 01:36 PM
if you go to the apple website and its on the front page I think OS 3.0 if I remember :unsure: will allow picture texting that kinda think

yep
Apple (United Kingdom) - iPhone - iPhone OS 3.0 Preview (http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/preview-iphone-os/)

lozzy
20-05-2009, 01:42 PM
yep
Apple (United Kingdom) - iPhone - iPhone OS 3.0 Preview (http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/preview-iphone-os/)

thanks skywatcher and keith

josh.p.
20-05-2009, 01:46 PM
Will picture messaging be available on the 2g?!

keith
20-05-2009, 01:51 PM
Will picture messaging be available on the 2g?!

It doesn't look like it at the moment no :(

..but as you know, if someone sends you a picture message you'll get a web link and when you click on it you can see the picture.

A much better way with the iphone is just to email the pictures anyway

josh.p.
20-05-2009, 03:34 PM
tbh I think the link way is a bit easier anyway, it stores them online as 'backup' too!

ieuanr
20-05-2009, 04:48 PM
Sorry - but a mobile phone you have to plug in every day is not very mobile.

I know you Apple fans will disagree but that is the Apple way - you cut Apple an awful lot of slack!

They do look nice though - and work well - but there is a payoff.

keith
20-05-2009, 04:52 PM
Sorry - but a mobile phone you have to plug in every day is not very mobile.

I know you Apple fans will disagree but that is the Apple way - you cut Apple an awful lot of slack!


Well it's not cutting them slack, it's saying that the way it works is absolutely no problem for us :yes:

If the phone doesn't function in the way you want it to, email apple and tell them then get rid of it and buy one that does until such a time as apple make one with a battery life that works for your lifestyle.

This is why there's choice out there I guess!

Britchick
20-05-2009, 04:58 PM
i love mine and it's no worse than some other phones like the prada which i had a while back which was not easy to use at all.

keith
20-05-2009, 05:40 PM
i love mine and it's no worse than some other phones like the prada which i had a while back which was not easy to use at all.

I just think we're at the limits of battery technology at a certain price point, weight and size.

I mean Apple could easily make the phone last twice as long by putting a double battery in there which I guess they'd do if their market research showed that more people wanted longer battery life than a slim phone.

Things move on though, so who knows how long the next iphone will last

Claire
20-05-2009, 06:19 PM
My Nokia 6500 Slide won't last a day if I text heavily.

josh.p.
20-05-2009, 06:49 PM
Sorry - but a mobile phone you have to plug in every day is not very mobile.

I know you Apple fans will disagree but that is the Apple way - you cut Apple an awful lot of slack!

They do look nice though - and work well - but there is a payoff.
:unsure: I just don't see the problem with charging it everyday! I usually charge any phone daily whether it's needed or not... I don't see why it's such a big deal.
If you needed a phone with loads of battery life, then you should have bought one perhaps? :unsure: I'd understand if it had less than advertised battery life, but it is stated within the specification.
The rumours about the new one says it'll have 1.5x the battery life of the old one;
Apple iPhone 2009 Arrives July 17th, Features OLED Display | unwir3d (http://www.unwir3d.com/887308/apple-iphone-2009-arrives-july-17th-features-oled-display) I


My Nokia 6500 Slide won't last a day if I text heavily.
Mine used to charge REALLY quickly too, but it'd loose it just as much :yes:

Claire
20-05-2009, 06:52 PM
I've a feeling I should hang fire on getting my iPhone then Josh. I was going to get one on the 1st of July but maybe I should wait until the 17th?

Britchick
20-05-2009, 07:11 PM
it only takes a short time to get fully charged though.

lozzy
20-05-2009, 07:42 PM
:unsure: The rumours about the new one says it'll have 1.5x the battery life of the old one;
Apple iPhone 2009 Arrives July 17th, Features OLED Display | unwir3d (http://www.unwir3d.com/887308/apple-iphone-2009-arrives-july-17th-features-oled-display) I



Is there really a new IPhone coming out/ I just thought it was a software upgrade.:unsure:
I bet o2 don't give all Iphone 3G customers a free upgrade:worship:

Britchick
20-05-2009, 07:54 PM
how do you switch the 3g off?

josh.p.
20-05-2009, 07:55 PM
I've a feeling I should hang fire on getting my iPhone then Josh. I was going to get one on the 1st of July but maybe I should wait until the 17th?
I would wait until the new software update is released as the new phone is coming out apparently:yes:


Is there really a new IPhone coming out/ I just thought it was a software upgrade.:unsure:
I bet o2 don't give all Iphone 3G customers a free upgrade:worship:
Yup, according to all speculations. Apparently it will have a LIGHT UP apple logo, too! :yes:

lozzy
20-05-2009, 07:57 PM
how do you switch the 3g off?

Follow these:-
settings
general
network
enable 3G slide to off.

Hope that helps.

Britchick
20-05-2009, 08:19 PM
thanks:hug2:

Skywatcher
20-05-2009, 09:59 PM
yes the point about the quick charge is very valid it only takes an hour!

josh.p.
20-05-2009, 10:11 PM
Apple preserves battery life by using a dualflow charging technique. The first 80% of the battery flows really quickly and is recharged, once it gets to the last 20% it use a 'drip' system to slowly fill up the remaining 20% of the battery. Apparently it makes them last a lot longer.

Skywatcher
21-05-2009, 06:59 AM
Its not just the best phone I have ever had its the best bit of technology I have ever had.

Dowloaded a great free planetarium app yesterday that should help anyone wanting to find their way around the stars

Tom Morrow
22-05-2009, 08:31 AM
I couldnt do without my iphone

Ive always plugged my phones in to charge over night so I dont notice any difference with the iphone

nothing else comes close and its made me start wanting to buy a mac computer

Skywatcher
22-05-2009, 08:32 AM
its the sole reason I now own one!

catrancher
22-05-2009, 10:34 AM
its the sole reason I now own one!

Ohhh... you mean it's not because Keith, Josh and I twisted your arm so much? :taunt:

I'm hurt! :ROFL:

Tom (:macwave:... well, no. Not really!)

Skywatcher
22-05-2009, 10:37 AM
well 3 factors then

1. the iPhone

2. You and Keith endlessly banging on about it

and more importantly

3. Vista is just awful

Tink
22-05-2009, 11:47 AM
For work I have a Verizon Pocket PC with an extended battery. It's bulky and heavy. :( It doesn't last more than a day either. :sigh: I have to plug it in each night and travel with a car jack, as well as the wall charger. My personal Samsung drinks battery power when I'm using the GPS, so I have to have that in the car charger when that feature is in use. :sigh:

I wish I had one phone to do everything. :yes: Unfortunately, an iPhone is not in my future as I am NOT going to work with AT&T again any time soon. Had 2 years of terrible service from them. :(

It is a pain in the neck when a phone needs constant charging. I'm the world's most forgetful person, and yes I forget to plug them in all the time. :( I am forever looking for a wall outlet in whichever community I'm in so that I can charge my phone/s. Now that's my problem and for the most part not the phone, but if the batteries lasted a bit longer...