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    I'm not sure how it will all play out. I feel I understand the French "psyche" a bit, not sure if I'm right on the mark, however.

    Greece got my attention, and so does Germany with their hardline stance. Can't say as I blame them in some respects, but something has to come together for all of them, Italy, France... all of them.

    The French are not afraid to rebel. I think they've made that quite clear. If Europe falls economically, then we are in global trouble. Ireland is in a huge downturn... they should never have given up the punt, should they?

    I don't pretend to be an economist at all, but the entire shifting sand feel to the global economy is pretty frightening as far as I'm concerned.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith, post: 279014

    The scary bit would be if we get a labour government before we've got far enough through paying off the debts.
    but that's the sad thing, the Conservatives always have to sort out the mess that Labour has made and just as the country starts to pick itself up Labour get back in and so the circle begins again.

    All Labour did was create jobs that weren't sustaniable in the Civil Service, got the country further and further into debt and sold off our gold for the lowest possible price

    I don't think there should ever have been a single currency, Germany and France wanted to rule Europe which is why they pushed so hard and other countries followed. I can't understand how they didn't realise that the poorer countries would become a strain on the currency

    I'm with Josh, Cameron was right not to agree to invest in the bailout fund. I'm fed up with him a bit though, it seems as most of the Lib Dems policies are getting through but the Conservatives are being put on the back burner :(

    If it was up to me, I'd be getting the country out of Europe completely, I know it would cause huge financial problems, I think it's the best way forward for the UK and we would survive.









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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendy, post: 279026
    If it was up to me, I'd be getting the country out of Europe completely, I know it would cause huge financial problems, I think it's the best way forward for the UK and we would survive.
    Hmmm, I`m really torn on this.
    Having being involved in exporting for many years, I do know that Europe is a big market for us and so it`s best to be part of it.
    On the other hand, I absolutely hate all of the silly EU rules that we have to abide by, together with the subsidies we pay, and the various bail outs etc.etc.
    I guess I really want the best of both worlds!





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    The thing is, we could still trade with Europe. After all, Europe trades with people outside the EU like the states

    We wouldnt have the automatic in-theory "no trade barriers" to EU members benefit that we have now but then again, how much do we REALLY have that now? I'm pretty sure that although various EU countries may let our goods in freely, they're still busy giving sneaky benefits to their own internal industries thereby helping them compete unfairly with our exports anyway.

    It's not easy but I tend to think we put up with more from the EU at the moment than we get in benefit and if we have to start bailing them out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowhand, post: 279045
    Hmmm, I`m really torn on this.
    Having being involved in exporting for many years, I do know that Europe is a big market for us and so it`s best to be part of it.
    On the other hand, I absolutely hate all of the silly EU rules that we have to abide by, together with the subsidies we pay, and the various bail outs etc.etc.
    I guess I really want the best of both worlds!
    I'm sure though, that the current rules of supposed 'free trade' between EU countries (Which, as Keith says isn't really free trade anyway) would pretty much continue without us being a part of the EU. They'd be cutting their nose off to spite their face almost.
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    I really do think coming out is the only way this country will get itself back on track - I know it's supposed to be the UK now, but it would be nice to put the Great back in Britain and whilst we are being dictated to by Europe, we are giving away more and more of our rights and traditions as well as our money









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