Will anyone be watching this when it is released?
I'm just in awe and shock of it all tbh how alot of it was all hushed up.
What are your thoughts?
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I've read a lot about it and I'll be watching it when it's released here.Originally Posted by Badlydrawnkel, post: 317584
I think the whole thing was mishandled hugely by seaworld and it's definitely made me think hard about my attitude to whales in captivity.
...but looking at it from the other side, if you felt that something was dangerous cruel and unsafe, then a death occurred, you wouldn't ignore it would you? You'd naturally use it as further proof.Originally Posted by Britchick, post: 317588
I've not seen the film yet so I don't know how biased it is but I do think there's a heck of a lot more to it than seaworld would like people to know.
Definitely! Just like Keith said, there are two sides to every story. I think the film makers originally were making a documentary about Oracs and then this happened. Don't quote me, but I am sure I heard that in a interview.
I know it is a sad thing to use someone's tragic death, but it jus highlights that working with wild animals is unpredictable.
plus I think we've heard a heck of a lot from the Seaworld publicity engine and if, as some claim, a lot of that is lies, then I think we owe it to that poor trainer to hear the real story
Originally Posted by Keith, post: 317589Originally Posted by Keith, post: 317591
Maybe, I just don't like the tactics of some of these extreme organisations. I love all animals and am completely torn about going to zoos/animal parks because obviously the animals are in captivity. However if we hadn't done this then lots of species would be now extinct and would we have our love of animals had we not seen them face to face. I choose very carefully where I go and have taken the kids. The agenda of the organisations that produce this kind of film is to demonise places like Seaworld. I don't see that as a balanced view but another organisation putting their extreme view out there which leaves the people on the outside with no idea of who to believe. Bet you're sorry you asked
Totally not! you're absolutely right, it's very hard to know who to believe and I'm conflicted all over the place about zoos and animals in captivity. Thing is, I don't think it's right to say that because hearing alternate viewpoints makes it difficult to understand which is correct, we should only hear one side.Originally Posted by Britchick, post: 317592
If the film turns out to be a total one sided biased viewpoint then I'll know in just which round receptacle to file it ;-) but I don't know if you've read the seaworld PR that they sent to cinemas and everywhere thinking of showing the film. It may only be me, and I'm no expert, but it doesn't ring true at all :/ it still talks about the trainer having been pulled in by her ponytail and the whale thinking it was a game when I thought that theory had been completely discounted in the courtroom by eyewitnesses and to be honest the length and ferocity of the incident.
I'm not knowledgeable enough about whales or seaworld or the training to be able to really know but I started off believing Seaworld and the more I read from them as well as everyone else, the more I've started feeling uncomfortable about the Seaworld account.
I do agree with you though. There's a whole is it better to save a species in a place like seaworld thought but I do wonder this, when as a society will we grow out of needing animals to do tricks to amaze us I mean many would say having whales in any kind of captivity is cruel, and ok I'd perhaps have some arguments to use but once they're trained to do performances a few times a day for the enjoyment of humans, I just start getting that uncomfortable tingling "what are we thinking!" feeling.
Anyway I don't know. It was clear Dawn loved her job and the whales and it's beyond incomprehensibly sad but I feel I need to watch and read more about it so we can learn from it and become better in the way we treat the fellow inhabitants of this spaceship earth.