See now? Red velvet cake has never done a thing for me. My grandmother used to make a banana cake. It was wicked good, but she'd ruin it (EVERYONE else liked it) with something called seven minute frosting? It was sickly sweet. I was the only kid in the neighborhood who never wanted a frosted birthday cake. :spring: I hated all that sweet stuff. Mama made me though. Said everyone else wanted frosting... I'd just cut it off my cake.